Arthur, Thanks so much. That is all helpful. My example is a judge who was a Lord of Appeal in Ordinary and was created a life peerage. I am weirded out that RDA doesn't actually define "proper name". In Lord Collins of Mapesbury (Lawrence Collins, Baron Collins of Mapesbury).
I think this gives me enough confidence to puzzle it out. -- Sean Chen <slc.c...@gmail.com> On Apr 24, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Arthur Liu <art....@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Sean, > > Below is my analysis, based purely on a class project I did which included > this topic. I have no practical experience (and no knowledge of existing > AACR2 practice) so take this with a grain of salt. > > > I think you first need to determine whether the person publishes under their > title of nobility, i.e. whether the person "uses his or her title rather than > surname in resources" s/he created/contributed to (9.2.2.14). To me, with my > lack of knowledge about British titles of nobility in general, it is tricky > because many of the "proper names" of titles are the same as the surname > (e.g. the Baron Byron, George Gordon Byron). According to Wikipedia (sorry!) > this is the case for most "life peers" > [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_peer#Forms_of_address]. > > > Option (1) > > If the person does publish under their title, then the preferred name will > begin with the "proper name." Going by RDA's examples, the "proper name" > would be something like Byron, Bolingbroke, Willoughby de Broke, or Collins > of Mapesbury. Then, the preferred name continues with the "personal name" in > direct order, such as Lawrence Collins in this case. (Depending on how the > name appears in resources associated with him, it might be Lawrence A. > Collins or Lawrence Antony Collins.) Finally, the preferred name includes > the rank, which is Baron (not Lord). > > preferred name = Collins of Mapesbury, Lawrence Collins, Baron > > Then, you go to 9.19 to construct the access point. The access point starts > with the preferred name. Then you make additions. Here, 9.19.1.2 (for > Titles or Other Designations) actually doesn't apply anymore since we've > already included the title of nobility in the preferred name. But we can > still add a date of birth (9.19.1.3): 1941-. > > authorized access point = Collins of Mapesbury, Lawrence Collins, Baron, 1941- > in MARC: 100 1# $a Collins of Mapesbury, Lawrence Collins, $c Baron, $d 1941- > > > Option (2) > > If the person does not publish under their title, then they can be treated as > just a person with a surname (9.2.2.9). (You still need to decide what to do > with the middle name.) > > preferred name = Collins, Lawrence > or, preferred name = Collins, Lawrence A. > or, preferred name = Collins, Lawrence Antony > > Then, RDA says to record the title of nobility in a separate element > (9.4.1.5), since in this case we have not included the title of nobility as > part of the preferred name. > > title = Baron Collins of Mapesbury > title = Baron > > (I think the first is right, although some of the examples in RDA seem to > imply that the title only includes the rank, Baron.) > > For the access point, you may consider adding the title (9.19.1.2) onto the > preferred name. However, this is tricky because it says only to do this for > nobility "if the title or part of title commonly appears with the name." To > me, this is a condition that would've caused us to choose option (1) above in > the first place. It could be that 9.19.1.2 would be employed for people who > publish primarily under their personal name, but their name still appears > with the title of nobility in other places in their resources (not in the > statement of responsibility). Or, it could mean that the condition for > option (1) requires that the resources only say "by the Baron Collins of > Mapesbury" and omit his given name entirely. In any case, if you do add the > title to the preferred name: > > authorized access point = Collins, Lawrence, Baron Collins of Mapesbury, 1941- > MARC: 100 1# $a Collins, Lawrence, $c Baron Collins of Mapesbury, $d 1941- > > > An example in RDA from 9.4.1.5 and 9.19.1.2 for Frank van Borselen, graaf van > Oostervant is a little clearer because in his case, Borselen (or van > Borselen) is a different word than Oostervant. > > > When you do get a clearer/better answer than mine, please send it along! > > > Thanks, > > Arthur Liu > art....@gmail.com > > > On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Sean Chen <slc.c...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm having trouble walking through 9.2.2.14 & 9.2.2.15 > > RDA 9.2.2.14 runs through how to record the names containing a title of > nobility. My hangup is the term "proper name". The instruction says: "Record > the proper name as the first element of the name if the person". Well what > is the proper name in a name like. Then on top of that what parts of those > names get coded where? Where does the $c (Title) begin and end? > > Example/workcat: > > usage: "Lord Collins of Mapesbury" & "Lord Collins" > > is it Collins of Mapesbury? Is it Collins? Is it both: > > 400 1# Collins of Mapesbury, Lawrence Collins, $c Lord > 400 1# Collins, Lord > > or > > 400 1# Collins of Mapesbury, Lawrence, $c Lord ? > > Or alternatively from other sources of information > > usage: "Lawrence Collins, Baron Collins of Mapesbury" > > 400 1# Collins of Mapesbury, Lawrence Collins, $c Baron > 400 1# Collins of Mapesbury, Lawrence, $c Baron > > I never though I'd have to do these sorts of names, but because of the > reevaluation policy and recode to RDA if using in a PCC record I want to make > sure I understand what is going where and what parts of the name are actually > used. I get the sense nothing changed from AACR2 here, but then again I never > really got to practice much on these sorts of names. > > -- > Sean Chen <slc.c...@gmail.com> >
