A question on relationship designators and corporate bodies that perhaps 
someone with more expertise can explain.

Appendix I, I.2. is divided into 2 sections. I.2.1. Relationship designators 
for creators and I.2.2. Relationship designators for other persons, families or 
corporate bodies associated with a work. My understanding has been that the RDs 
in I.2.1. are used for the creator with the primary relationship to the work, 
what we used to call main entry. In I.2.1.,  the definitions usually begin with 
the phrase "A person, body, or family responsible for ..."  Corporate bodies 
are identified as the primary creator under a limited set of circumstances 
listed in 19.2.1., not all that different from the AACR2 rules for choice of 
entry.  But not all of the RDs listed in I.2.1. fit into the 19.2.1. criteria. 
For example, 19.2.1 does not have a category for designers, yet corporate 
bodies are included in the definitions for architect and designer. I understand 
that we can have artists as corporate bodies and creators (19.2.1.1.1., 
category h, e.g. Gilbert and George) but I don't see the extension to 
architectural firms, choreographers, designers, photographers, or composers. In 
ordinary discourse, architectural firms are often credited with the design of 
buildings; it's just that the scope of the rules in 19.2.1. does not allow for 
such a relationship at the creator level. A photography archive can be 
responsible for a collection of photographs, but the relationship is 
administrative (19.2.1.1.1. category a), not the relationship of photographer 
to work.  Can someone explain this?

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Bernadette Mary O'Reilly
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 2:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Correct use of relationship designators for corporate 
bodies

What about liturgical works?  The main entry (i.e., the name in a name-title 
AAP) is the associated church or denomination, but this is nevertheless 
categorised as 'other corporate body associated with the work', in which case 
'issuing body' is correct.

'issuing body' could also be used as a second relator in 1XX if the entity had 
multiple roles; and if no creator-relator could be assigned because RDA offered 
no suitable relator for the entity's creator role (and arguably in the case of 
conferences it does not), it might by default end up as the only relator.

Best wishes,
Bernadette

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Adam L. Schiff
Sent: 02 August 2013 19:42
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Correct use of relationship designators for corportate 
bodies

Using "issuing body" in a 1XX field would not be a correct use of RDA, since 
issuing bodies are not defined as creators.  The only designator that I see in 
I.2.2 that can for sure be used with a 1XX access point is "defendant", since 
RDA allows you to name legal works with a defendant's name.

On Fri, 2 Aug 2013, J. McRee Elrod wrote:

> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 11:15:26 -0700
> From: J. McRee Elrod <m...@slc.bc.ca>
> Reply-To: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and
Access
>     <RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA>
> To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Correct use of relationship designators for
corportate
>     bodies
> 
> Cathy Crum asked:
>
>> I have questions about the correct use of the relationship 
>> designators, "is= suing body" and "author," especially for corporate
bodies.
>
> We would limit the use of "author" with a corporate body, to resources

> entered under the corporate body, i.e., administrative resources about

> the body such as annual reports.
>
> We plan to use "issuing body" for conference names, in the absence of 
> anything better.
>
> We assume commercial publishers would not be issuing bodies, but 
> rather private and government agencies.  Often the publisher differs 
> from the issuing body, e.g., a government publications office may be 
> the publisher, while an agency is the issuing body.
>
>
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