Hi Hilton, 
 
My $0.05 worth as off-grid is my primary domain. 
 
The SW4024 is an excellent inverter, reliable, robust and if you can find 
another stack them for 240 and will have no issues with the 3 HP table saw 
(assuming batteries can handle that is). I run my whole home from a 13 year old 
pair of them. 
 
Magnum makes an excellent, robust, and reliable off-grid inverter. Available in 
120 or 240 without stack. Stacking Magnums (for more power) is straightforward 
and the user interface is very simple and intuitive. There is some different 
hardware required for stacking. If a second SW4024 isn't an option then this is 
what I would do. 
 
I test installed an Apollo unit last year. What a frustrating experience that 
was. It requires a computer and a RS485 interface to program the most basic 
features to make the unit usable. Nice when I was real remote and without 
Internet. That alone makes it unappealing in my books. Seems they are a bit 
behind the rest of the crowd. I'd not trust a marketing department claim it 
will start that saw unless they can demonstrate it. (with of course some other 
loads on the system - having to power down the house so one can work in the 
shop is hardly usable). 
 
Outback units are common, though suffer from weak battery chargers and power 
quality issues while under charge so for off-grid that involves any significant 
generator charging they are not ideal. They are complex to program and operate 
and end users report lots of frustration. 
 
Kevin

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[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org]On Behalf Of Hilton Dier III
Sent: October 29, 2013 6:48 PM
To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
Subject: [RE-wrenches] To stack or not to stack? Off-grid 240V


Hello Wrenches,

I have an off-grid client with a 24V system and an old Xantrex SW4024. He wants 
240VAC capability with enough oomph for sometimes making a cut with his 3 hp 
table saw without starting the generator.

I am looking at Apollo, Magnum, and Outback inverters. I'm most familiar with 
Outback. I have a couple of installations out there with stacked 3.6 kW 
Outbacks.

However, the Apollo marketing promises that their 3.2 kW inverter will start a 
3 hp motor. Will it actually, and is this a good idea even if it can?

I'd appreciate hearing about your experiences with 240V Apollo units, stacked 
Magnums, and stacked Outbacks. I know from experience that the Outbacks require 
some hundreds of dollars of extra fittings and electronics to make a proper 
stacked installation. How about Magnum? Any comments on reliability?

Many Thanks,

Hilton 

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Hilton Dier III

Renewable Energy Design

Partner, Solar Gain LLC

453 East Hill Rd.

Middlesex, VT 05602

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