Is that Honda an electric start? If so, what model it it? As for batteries, I suggest Concorde AGM PVX-9150HT for 915Ah or Fullriver DC1150-2 for 1150Ah. Both are great choices and very rugged.
Concorde & FR both may already have them stocked there. > On Oct 14, 2016, at 5:17 PM, Dana <d...@solarwork.com> wrote: > > This client is on Kauai, her cloudy winter storms average 4-5 days. She has > a generator [Honda] not an auto start, that several folks have tried to > integrate as auto start with no success. Battery maintenance is a challenge > for her, as could be expected with a pile of T-105 style batteries, etc. > I can hear folks saying “well maybe she should not be off grid.” > She does not have another living option & I feel just requires a minor > upgrade & correction to a poor original install. > I suggested a set of HUP Solar Ones & the freight was huge to the islands. > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Dana Orzel > Great Solar Works, Inc - NABCEP # 051112-136 > d...@solarwork.com <mailto:d...@solarwork.com> - www.solarwork.biz > <http://www.solarwork.com/> > O - 970.626.5253 F - 970.626.4140 c - 208.721.7003 > "Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" > > From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org > <mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>] On Behalf Of Allan > Sindelar > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 3:56 PM > To: RE-wrenches > Subject: [RE-wrenches] Array/battery relationship (WAS Battery Watt hours FLA > VS Iron Edison Batteries) > > Dana (and I'm curious if others agree), > I used to work with 4-5 days of storage, back with modules were expensive and > batteries were relatively cheap. As in recent years these two have reversed - > modules are cheap and batteries are dear - my fundamental design approach has > changed. I now design around 2-3 days of storage with a larger array, as long > as there's a backup generator in the system. I size to at least 100% of the > projected winter average daily load. > > The batteries recharge more quickly, including on partly cloudy days between > storms. They spend more of their time full, thus keeping them happier and > giving them as much or more life, even with more and deeper cycling. FLAs are > easier to EQ, given the hotter charge rate. And the customer spends less. > > You used to live in SW Colorado, a similar sunny winter climate. Is it the > same in Idaho where you live now? > Allan > > Allan Sindelar > al...@sindelarsolar.com <mailto:al...@sindelarsolar.com> > NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional > NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional > New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician > Founder (Retired), Positive Energy, Inc. > 505 780-2738 cell > > > On 10/14/2016 3:36 PM, Dana wrote: >> I recommend 4 days backup min & 5 days backup if budget allows of storage >> and Iron Edison were saying that 2 days was sufficient. To clarify - I said >> “magical” as in wondering if there was something special, I-E did not say >> this. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> Dana Orzel >> Great Solar Works, Inc - NABCEP # 051112-136 >> d...@solarwork.com <mailto:d...@solarwork.com> - www.solarwork.biz >> <http://www.solarwork.com/> >> O - 970.626.5253 F - 970.626.4140 c - 208.721.7003 >> "Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" >> >> From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org >> <mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>] On Behalf Of Dan Fink >> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 12:04 PM >> To: RE-wrenches >> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Watt hours FLA VS Iron Edison Batteries >> >> Tom; I have never seen Iron Edison saying NiFe is "magical" -- do you have a >> specific webpage on their site that says this? >> All batteries have advantages and disadvantages, and also myriad technical >> issues for the installer to overcome. >> >> >> Dan Fink >> Adjunct Professor of Solar Energy Technology, Ecotech Institute >> IREC Certified Instructor™ for: >> ~ PV Installation Professional >> ~ Small Wind Installer >> Executive Director, Buckville Energy >> NABCEP Registered Continuing Education Providers™ >> 970.672.4342 <tel:970.672.4342> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Tom Duffy <t...@solar-biz.com >> <mailto:t...@solar-biz.com>> wrote: >> Hi Dana >> >> Two thoughts… how many days of autonomy are they quoting? >> >> If nickel Iron were this magical how come nobody has noticed them for the >> past 100 years? >> >> Kind regards >> >> Tom Duffy >> Senior Solar Design Engineer >> <image001.jpg> >> E-Mail: t...@solar-biz.com <mailto:t...@solar-biz.com> >> **Please note my new email – You will now be able to find me at: >> t...@solar-biz.com <mailto:t...@solar-biz.com>Please update your records so >> we don’t lose touch!** >> Main Number: 888-826-0939 <tel:888-826-0939> >> Panama Office: 507-836-5588 X 122 <tel:507-836-5588%20X%20122> >> Direct Toll Free: 888-503-6772 <tel:888-503-6772> >> International: 575-539-2111 X 122 <tel:575-539-2111%20X%20122> >> SKYPE Address: thesolarbiz (e-mail first) >> >> NOTICE: Due to recent budget cuts, the rising cost of electricity, gas, and >> oil...plus the current state of the economy............the light at the end >> of the tunnel, has been turned off… It should have been solar. >> Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the >> sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and >> privileged information. 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I understand you can use the IE deeper typically than a FLA. >> >> Math is math to me & how I have sized [successfully for years] Is there >> something I am missing or has my client been misinformed? >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> Dana Orzel >> Great Solar Works, Inc - NABCEP # 051112-136 >> d...@solarwork.com <mailto:d...@solarwork.com> - www.solarwork.biz >> <http://www.solarwork.com/> >> O - 970.626.5253 <tel:970.626.5253> F - 970.626.4140 <tel:970.626.4140> >> c - 208.721.7003 <tel:208.721.7003> >> "Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >> >> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> <mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> >> >> Change listserver email address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> <http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org> >> >> List-Archive: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html> >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm <http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm> >> >> Check out or update participant bios: >> www.members.re-wrenches.org <http://www.members.re-wrenches.org/> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >> >> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> <mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> >> >> Change listserver email address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> <http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org> >> >> List-Archive: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html> >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm <http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm> >> >> Check out or update participant bios: >> www.members.re-wrenches.org <http://www.members.re-wrenches.org/> >> > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > <mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > <http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org> > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > <http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html> > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm <http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm> > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org <http://www.members.re-wrenches.org/> >
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