The SMA Sunny Storage looks promising.

It will be able to work with the LGC RESU10 HV battery and, sooner rather
than later I hope, BYD package as well.

And it will allow for a backup generator tie in.

Ta-dah!

marco

On Thursday, September 13, 2018, Bruce Erickson <br...@mendocinosolar.com>
wrote:

> Hi Marco,
>
> I partially agree with you. I recently bid Outback, StorEdge, and Pika
> options for a GTBB customer, partly to understand pricing for myself, and
> found OB to be so much more expensive. The customer really wanted a system
> that would be to be able to charge the batteries off a generator in an
> outage, understandably. But the extra thousands in cost for OB ended up
> being prohibitive. Add-on rapid shutdown is a killer. So he’s opting for a
> nice modern high voltage DC system, with optimizers and built-in RSD, but
> when there’s an extended outage, he’ll have to hope the sun comes out right
> after the storm to recharge the batteries, or he’ll end up in the dark
> again, until the grid comes back. Maybe there’s a high voltage inverter
> that allows generator charging, or a third-party battery charger, that I’m
> not aware of. Otherwise high voltage systems are very limited for backup,
> at least in winter storm scenarios.
>
> *Bruce Erickson*
> Mendocino Solar Service
> PO Box 1252
> Mendocino, CA 95460
> 707-937-1701
> 707-937-1741 fax
> br...@mendocinosolar.com
>
> *Connecting Mendocino County to Solar Since* *1994*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 12, 2018, at 6:26 PM, Marco Mangelsdorf <ma...@pvthawaii.com>
> wrote:
>
> Aloha all,
>
> At the risk of whacking at a hornet’s nest…lower voltage DC is soooo 80s
> and 90s especially when it comes to grid-tie applications with battery
> storage.
>
> The time of OutBack and Schneider and all the others doing 48VDC is
> drawing to close.  Enough already.  Thank you for your service.
>
> The sooner the industry fully migrates to higher voltage DC (Tesla, LG
> Chem, BYD and others), the better.
>
> marco
>
> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
> <re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>] *On Behalf Of *Peter Giroux
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 12, 2018 3:03 PM
> *To:* RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Any thoughts on this approach to adding
> battery backup to an existing grid tie system will be appreciated.
>
> Ken
>
>   We have had terrific success with AC Coupling. Yes there are some
> differences from Dc Coupled systems but if built properly, customer is
> willing to learn how to use it and maintain it and you put the correct
> relays in to shut off the string inverters if battery voltage gets to high,
> great.
>
>   If you have a customer that refuses to exercise the system, not check
> the batteries if they are fla's and overloads it when the power goes down
> then not so cool. We have customers that power shave with it, have had
> backup power for days until the power came back on as they monitored the
> loads and were judicious about use. Ray is right in the sense the customer
> needs to learn how to use the system or they can royally screw it up ( yes
> we have had two do this, one learned the other not ).
>
>   The Radians have been great work horses for this application, sadly as
> Ray mentioned Outback has moved away from it as a primary solution.
>
> peter giroux
> ASAE
> Atlanta
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Ken Schaal <k...@commonwealthsolar.com>
> *To:* RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> ; Ken Schaal
> <cwsol...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:11 PM
> *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Any thoughts on this approach to adding battery
> backup to an existing grid tie system will be appreciated.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyhkIfS5Z-Q
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