Mahalo Mike. Can you tell us please when the SS will actually be able to integrate the BYD battery platform in the north American market?
marco On Monday, September 17, 2018, Harry Mahon <[email protected]> wrote: > Marco and all – yes that is the correct spec sheet for the BYD batteries > that will work with Sunny Boy Storage. > > > > SMA strongly would recommend the Sunny Island for off-grid in general and > certainly whole home backup. See the attached from Home Power April/May > 2011; quad stack of SIs acting as UPS for the home – just charging > batteries when grid is present, powering home with batteries/PV when grid > is gone. A dual split phase cluster is almost 24,000 W continuous (!) > capability and can handle crazy power factor loads with no issues. Built > in generator functions and two relay positions per Sunny Island allow for > lots of redundancy and fail-safe load shedding to be built in. > > > > The Sunny Boy Storage (SBS) is designed to be a grid-tied inverter to > allow higher self consumption of local PV power. Even with the ABU to > allow off grid operation (grid forming on its AC outputs rather than just > on the dedicated 120VAC Secure Power Supply outlet), there can be a several > second delay in the switch from grid power to microgrid as the ABU must > signal the Sunny Boy Storage that it has disconnected from the grid and > that it is safe for the SBS to form a grid on its output terminals. 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Any review, copying, or distribution of this email (or > any attachments thereto) by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not > the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and > permanently delete the original and any copies of this email and any > attachments thereto. Thank you. > > > > *From:* RE-wrenches <[email protected]> *On > Behalf Of *Marco Mangelsdorf > *Sent:* Saturday, September 15, 2018 10:08 PM > *To:* 'RE-wrenches' <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Low voltage DC v. higher voltage DC > > > > Sabaidee from Vientiane, Lao PDR. > > > > Attached is the spec sheet on the BYD battery in question. > > > > I’ve confirmed with SMA directly that there’s no capability for the Sunny > Storage design (S.S., ABU and battery) to use a generator input. My > apologies for mis-stating earlier that it could accommodate a generator. > > > > As far as grid-tie with batteries, the Holy Grail as far as I’m concerned > is being able to provide whole house back-up and not have to do the old > fashioned and pain in the arse critical load sub-panel. The more choices > that we’re provided, the more better. So I’m pleased that companies like > SMA, Ensync, SolarEdge and others are bringing new equipment and designs to > market to allow for whole house back-up. > > > > marco > > > > *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *jay > *Sent:* Saturday, September 15, 2018 5:00 AM > *To:* RE-wrenches > *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Low voltage DC v. higher voltage DC > > > > HI Harry, > > > > The battery is charged from the AC side correct? > > And is the charging algorithm inside the ABU. > > > > If so why couldn’t you use a generator to charge the battery? > > > > jay > > > > peltz power > > > > > > > > On Sep 13, 2018, at 7:10 AM, Harry Mahon <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Marco – > > > > The Sunny Boy Storage “Advanced Backup Unit” accessory or ABU will be > discussed at SPI in a couple weeks – first units are being stocked now at > our warehouses in US. The ABU will allow the SBS to be a grid former in > case of utility outage, however there are no plans to have any generator > inputs/controls to allow for battery charging from generat > > And yes, BYD BBox HV 5.12/7.68/10.24 devices will be supported when > available in US (will be this year I understand) > > > > Mike > > > > ----- > > > > The SMA Sunny Storage looks promising. > > > > It will be able to work with the LGC RESU10 HV battery and, sooner rather > > than later I hope, BYD package as well. > > > > And it will allow for a backup generator tie in. > > > > Ta-dah! > > > > marco > > > > On Thursday, September 13, 2018, Bruce Erickson <bruce at mendocinosolar.com > <http://lists.re-wrenches.org/listinfo.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org>> > > wrote: > > > > >* Hi Marco,* > > > > > >* I partially agree with you. I recently bid Outback, StorEdge, and Pika* > > >* options for a GTBB customer, partly to understand pricing for myself, and* > > >* found OB to be so much more expensive. The customer really wanted a system* > > >* that would be to be able to charge the batteries off a generator in an* > > >* outage, understandably. But the extra thousands in cost for OB ended up* > > >* being prohibitive. Add-on rapid shutdown is a killer. So he’s opting for a* > > >* nice modern high voltage DC system, with optimizers and built-in RSD, but* > > >* when there’s an extended outage, he’ll have to hope the sun comes out > >right* > > >* after the storm to recharge the batteries, or he’ll end up in the dark* > > >* again, until the grid comes back. Maybe there’s a high voltage inverter* > > >* that allows generator charging, or a third-party battery charger, that I’m* > > >* not aware of. Otherwise high voltage systems are very limited for backup,* > > >* at least in winter storm scenarios.* > > > > > >* *Bruce Erickson** > > >* Mendocino Solar Service* > > >* PO Box 1252* > > >* Mendocino, CA 95460* > > >* 707-937-1701* > > >* 707-937-1741 fax* > > >* bruce at mendocinosolar.com > ><http://lists.re-wrenches.org/listinfo.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org>* > > > > > >* *Connecting Mendocino County to Solar Since* *1994** > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: [email protected] > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists. > re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > >
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