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Tump - You are right about the large number of
times that has been asked, and I wish I had a happy answer.
However, with all the work on Sunny Boy Storage
and Sunny Central Storage (and even a Tripower
storage), resources to develop and test a split
phase Sunny Island are not available. There is
active work on updating the communications to
support SMAâs Ethernet based communications. Still, this may be months out.
With the Smartformer being discontinued, the
MidNite MNX-240 is the recommended part to
create 240 split phase from one Sunny Island.
Best regards
Mike
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<re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org> On Behalf Of Tump
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 4:01 PM
To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Low voltage DC v. higher voltage DC
I bet Mike could retire from the industry if he
had a nickel for every time he was asked
for/about that. Iâve asked Santa for years
¦ still waiting. T
On Sep 20, 2018, at 5:21 PM, Chris Schaefer
<<mailto:ch...@solarandwindfx.com>ch...@solarandwindfx.com> wrote:
Hey Michael from SMA, any chance we can finally
get an 240vac SI here in the states?
Christopher
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Harry Mahon
<<mailto:michael.ma...@sma-america.com>michael.ma...@sma-america.com> wrote:
Marco <
I will need to ask for information about the BYD
availability. Once those units have all
required listings/certifications and are
available in US, they should be ready to use
with SBS. The CANBUS comms to the BMS has
already been vetted, and they are on the SMA
Approved battery list already. But I will get
confirmation on the immediate usability.
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Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 10:20 PM
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Mahalo Mike.
Can you tell us please when the SS will actually
be able to integrate the BYD battery platform in the north American market?
marco
On Monday, September 17, 2018, Harry Mahon
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Marco and all yes that is the correct spec
ssheet for the BYD batteries that will work with Sunny Boy Storage.
SMA strongly would recommend the Sunny Island
for off-grid in general and certainly whole home
backup. See the attached from Home Power
April/May 2011; quad stack of SIs acting as UPS
for the home just charging batteries when grid
is prresent, powering home with batteries/PV
when grid is gone. A dual split phase cluster
is almost 24,000 W continuous (!) capability and
can handle crazy power factor loads with no
issues. Built in generator functions and two
relay positions per Sunny Island allow for lots
of redundancy and fail-safe load shedding to be built in.
The Sunny Boy Storage (SBS) is designed to be a
grid-tied inverter to allow higher self
consumption of local PV power. Even with the
ABU to allow off grid operation (grid forming on
its AC outputs rather than just on the dedicated
120VAC Secure Power Supply outlet), there can be
a several second delay in the switch from grid
power to microgrid as the ABU must signal the
Sunny Boy Storage that it has disconnected from
the grid and that it is safe for the SBS to form
a grid on its output terminals. Also be aware
that there is no master-slave configuration
ability with the SBS â they will always assume
they are acting independently on their energy meter input information.
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Mike
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Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 10:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Low voltage DC v. higher voltage DC
Sabaidee from Vientiane, Lao PDR.
Attached is the spec sheet on the BYD battery in question.
Iâve confirmed with SMA directly that
thereâs no capability for the Sunny Storage
design (S.S., ABU and battery) to use a
generator input. My apologies for mis-stating
earlier that it could accommodate a generator.
As far as grid-tie with batteries, the Holy
Grail as far as Iâm concerned is being able to
provide whole house back-up and not have to do
the old fashioned and pain in the arse critical
load sub-panel. The more choices that weâre
provided, the more better. So Iâm pleased
that companies like SMA, Ensync, SolarEdge and
others are bringing new equipment and designs to
market to allow for whole house back-up.
marco
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HI Harry,
The battery is charged from the AC side correct?
And is the charging algorithm inside the ABU.
If so why couldnât you use a generator to charge the battery?
jay
peltz power
On Sep 13, 2018, at 7:10 AM, Harry Mahon
<<mailto:michael.ma...@sma-america.com>michael.ma...@sma-america.com> wrote:
Marco
The Sunny Boy Storage âAdvanced Backup Unitâ
accessory or ABU will be discussed at SPI in a
couple weeks first units are being stockeed
now at our warehouses in US. The ABU will allow
the SBS to be a grid former in case of utility
outage, however there are no plans to have any
generator inputs/controls to allow for battery charging from generat
And yes, BYD BBox HV 5.12/7.68/10.24 devices
will be supported when available in US (will be this year I understand)
Mike
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The SMA Sunny Storage looks promising.
It will be able to work with the LGC RESU10 HV battery and, sooner rather
than later I hope, BYD package as well.
And it will allow for a backup generator tie in.
Ta-dah!
marco
On Thursday, September 13, 2018, Bruce Erickson
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> Hi Marco,
>
> I partially agree with you. I recently bid Outback, StorEdge, and Pika
> options for a GTBB customer, partly to understand pricing for myself, and
> found OB to be so much more expensive. The customer really wanted a system
> that would be to be able to charge the batteries off a generator in an
> outage, understandably. But the extra thousands in cost for OB ended up
> being prohibitive. Add-on rapid shutdown is a
killer. So heâs opting for a
> nice modern high voltage DC system, with optimizers and built-in RSD, but
> when thereâs an extended outage, heâll
have to hope the sun comes out right
> after the storm to recharge the batteries, or heâll end up in the dark
> again, until the grid comes back. Maybe thereâs a high voltage inverter
> that allows generator charging, or a
third-party battery charger, that Iâm
> not aware of. Otherwise high voltage systems are very limited for backup,
> at least in winter storm scenarios.
>
> *Bruce Erickson*
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