Hey alexis.
Any thoughts regarding these comments about Ni-fi batteries?
Ur running them DC direct?
Hope all is well. Ken

On Wed, Nov 21, 2018, 2:25 PM David Katz <dk...@backwoodssolar.com wrote:

> AEE Solar sold NiFe batteries from Russia in the late 1990s.  They last a
> long time but were hard to use with inverters.  A 12 volt pack has 10
> cells. Each cell reaches full charge at 1.7 volts so the pack would be at
> 17 volts. that is 68 volts in a 48 volt pack.  inverters turn off for
> over-voltage before that.  When they are operating the cells are at 1.2
> volts.  The charge efficiency is about 60% when you look at watt hours in
> vs. watt hours out.  They also use a lot of distilled water.  I had a set
> that required watering every 3 weeks.  I did not keep up with watering once
> and one of the cells exploded when the water level got below the plates.
> I would suggest L-ion batteries instead.
> David Katz
>
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 10:37 AM Ray <r...@solarray.com> wrote:
>
>> Charge efficiency is really low,  Charging parameters can be hard to get
>> right, Voltage is not stable under heavy loads, and they are really
>> expensive to boot.  I've never sold them for these reasons, but I have
>> replaced some sets that customers were unhappy with.  They seem to work OK,
>> only if there are no large surge loads, and the battery and array are sized
>> large enough.  Unfortunately because of the cost, folks seem to really
>> under size them, which only exasperates the above issues.
>>
>> There's good reasons this old battery chemistry has not been widely
>> adopted by the solar industry.  It does have its place, and I understand
>> the train industry uses it because A) they have cheap on grid charging
>> available, so efficiency doesn't matter, and B) they have telecomm type
>> loads with very little surge.
>>
>> Ray Walters
>> Remote Solar
>> 303 505-8760
>>
>> On 11/21/18 10:55 AM, d...@foxfire-energy.com wrote:
>>
>> Hi Guys, I have a potential customer inquiring about installing a pre
>> packaged Iron Edison system.. I recall hearing strange stories about Ni-Fe
>> batteries but don't recall the specifics. I have done a few searches with
>> mixed results.. And have friends advising I run like a Rabbit.. Thought I'd
>> run it by you folks for an update..
>> Thanks, and Happy Turkey Day.
>>
>> db
>>
>>
>> Dan Brown
>> Foxfire Energy Corp.
>> Renewable Energy Systems
>> (802)-483-2564
>> www.Foxfire-Energy.com
>>
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