I think the bigger question here is this:  Has anyone had connection failures of any sort using other crimpers?  i use an Amphenol tool and crimps, and they have always worked fine with a variety of modules.  I can see Enphase requiring the expensive tool, because it covers their liability bacon, and the cost isn't coming out of their pocket. The only failed connector I came across was a horrible cheap chinese copy of an MC connector on a little E bay RV system I trouble shooted.  They used what looked like  heavy tin foil in the connector, I could just bend it around with my fingers.  It was immediately obvious it was inferior, and was non UL. But please has anyone actually had an issue in the thousands of connections all of us Wrenches have made over the past 15 years?

Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760

On 3/8/19 10:25 AM, Jason Szumlanski wrote:
Nick,

This tool is ridiculously expensive. Enphase should really look into alternatives. If you noticed, Wrenches were recommending other brands and I know many installers use cheap MC4 crimpers pickup up on Amazon. In fact, I have never known another installer near me using an MC brand tool since the early days when that is all that really existed. I wouldn't call it a prohibitively expense, but when one tool makes up over 25% of a truck's core tool box cost, something is wrong. Maybe I'm missing something and these other tools use dies that are acceptable, but it sounds like we are being forced into a single source/brand tool.

Jason Szumlanski

        

        
        

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On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:32 AM Nick Soleil <nsol...@enphaseenergy.com <mailto:nsol...@enphaseenergy.com>> wrote:

    Hi Jason,


    The Field Wireable Connectors Installation Guide specified the
    following crimping tools for use with the
    connectors: Multi-Contact PV-CZM-18100, -19100, or -22100.  That
    tool is required for meeting our reliability requirements and
    compliance requirements.


    The document can be found here:

    
https://enphase.com/sites/default/files/downloads/support/Q-Field-Wireable-Connectors-QIG-EN-US.pdf

    Cordially,

    Nick Soleil

    Enphase EnergySenior Product Manager, Envoy and Accessories

    (707) 763-4784 x7267  // office

    (707) 321-2937  // cell

    *Powering What’s Next*™/ | /The Enphase Energy Management System
    <https://enphase.com/en-us/products-and-services/envoy>

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    California C10 Licensed Electrician #986315



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    *From:* RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
    <mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>> on behalf of
    Jason Szumlanski <ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com
    <mailto:ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com>>
    *Sent:* Thursday, March 7, 2019 3:03 AM
    *To:* RE-wrenches
    *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Crimper for Enphase field wireable
    connectors
    I have the Rennsteig now. I wasn't sure if it is ok to use since
    it's not the exact specified model in the Enphase instructions.
    There are all kinds of knock offs for under $50 and I have found a
    couple that seem to work extremely well, but again I'm not sure if
    it violates the listing to do so.

    Jason Szumlanski
    Principal Solar Designer
    Florida Solar Design Group

    On Wed, Mar 6, 2019, 9:16 PM Jay <jay.pe...@gmail.com
    <mailto:jay.pe...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        Hi Jason

        Talk to Bryan at PV cables

        707-923-3000

        He’s got the Rennsteig tool for under $200 and the MFG tool
        for just under $300

        Jay

        Peltz power.

        > On Mar 6, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Jason Szumlanski
        <ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com
        <mailto:ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com>> wrote:
        >
        > Is there a reasonably priced alternative to the
        Multi-Contact PV-CZM-##100 models? These are the only ones
        specified in the quick install guide. Obviously I don't want
        to violate the listing, but I also don't want to spend $500
        for a tool for each truck.
        >
        > Jason Szumlanski
        > Principal Solar Designer
        > Florida Solar Design Group
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