I also agree with Jerry's comments.
I've been installing and living off grid for over 12 years and have ALWAYS used 
conventional appliances (while being mindful of consumption) with no issues 
including pumps and mini-split AC's.


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Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Washing Machine


I second Jerry's comments.  Back in the 90s, we sold Sunfrost DC fridges, DC 
fans, CFLs, DC Pumps, etc.  Just tons of trouble for very little benefit.  
Local fridge techs wouldn't touch them, and frankly they weren't as efficient 
as advertised.  The closer off grid clients can be to normal, the better.  That 
means normal wiring, normal appliances, etc.  Then you aren't on the hook for 
all these other items.  I hate to say it, but they just are not as well built 
or thought out, as main stream appliances, and the customer (after many bitter 
experiences) will eventually get normal equipment.

One other thing: plan on adding a LVD with a big contactor if you do have DC 
equipment or you'll ruin the batteries with this little detour down the "road 
less traveled"....

Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760

On 9/18/19 9:40 AM, Jerry Shafer wrote:
Wrenches
I have been in the renewable industry for a very many years and l dont quite  
understand why someone would spend way to much on a refrigerator or washer or 
even range when they have their own issues. I have always suggested that my 
customers to buy a name brand machine,  efficiency always a factor of course.  
Then invest in more batteries, modules, inverter etc. instead. In the long game 
it's a better investment with fewer headaches. Granted in some cases a propane 
refrigerator might be better but this is very seldom. But that's just me.
Jerry

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 7:13 AM Drake 
<drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org<mailto:drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org>>
 wrote:
Hello Wrenches,

For years, is seemed like the best off grid washing machine was the Staber. 
I've read of complaints about cheap plastic parts breaking. The price tag on 
this machine is very high for something that isn't mechanically solid.

Are there any good options for an affordable, low power, low water usage, 
resilient, repairable machine with a minimum of electronics on the market?

Thanks,

Drake

Drake Chamberlin
Athens Electric LLC
OH License 44810
CO License 3773
NABCEP Certified Solar PV
740-448-7328
http://athens-electric.com/
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