Anyone have any recommendations as to other products like the scala2?

Thx
Jay

> On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Ray <r...@solarray.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I've definitely had some Grundfos failures from the way back days, but their 
> Alpha ECM circulator series has been really solid, as well as Taco's ECM 
> drive circulators.  To be clear ECM is variable speed drive VSD, but not 
> variable frequency drive VFD.  ECM varies DC voltage to a DC motor to vary 
> speed, while VFD varies frequency to a 3 phase motor to vary speed. 
> 
> Or at least that's the way my feeble mind understands it......
> 
> Ray Walters
> Remote Solar
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> On 9/17/20 9:42 AM, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar wrote:
>> Look at the recent Grundfos Scala2 recall, they have sold some really bad 
>> pumps, so AC is not always best. For Offgrid a spare inverter is often 
>> called for because critical systems do need back-up. Many 
>> applications/requirements are different.
>> 
>> Grundfos scala2 pump recall
>> They have been recalling or "updating" all VFD type pumps for 30+ years now. 
>> It is all part of their planned obsolescence. The more electronics you have 
>> in a pump system, the less likely water is to come out of a faucet when 
>> opened, and the more it is going to cost you
>>  
>> 
>> Winter is coming :)
>> 
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>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 09:30:43 -0600, Ray <r...@solarray.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually best of all:  you don't have to run low voltage DC circuits to the 
>>> pump room.  Another thing about the ECM drive pumps, they have much higher 
>>> flow rates available than the El Cids.  And if you're worried about your 
>>> old school street cred in the off grid world, they are still technically DC 
>>> at the drive, for those old timers that insist on DC.
>>> 
>>> Ray Walters
>>> Remote Solar
>>> 303 505-8760
>>> On 9/17/20 6:54 AM, Dana Orzel wrote:
>>>> I have El-cids in stock & am selling them off.
>>>> 
>>>> I have switched to the new AC technology that Grundfoss & TACO offer. They 
>>>> are called ECM pumps. Electronically Commutated Pump motors. AC-DC motors, 
>>>> soft start, variable speed, super-efficient, best of all very QUIET!
>>>> 
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