Can you explain what changes the eg4 18 inverter has vs the Envy as to LA programming?
To me the Envy has a big advantage due to it having AGS warm up/cool down that the EG4 does not. Jay > On Apr 10, 2024, at 7:49 AM, Howie Michaelson via RE-wrenches > <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > > John, > If you are thinking of pairing the Envy with lead-acid batteries, I would > strongly suggest not doing it. Even though Fortress sales advertises the Envy > to be compatible with lead-acid, after trying it in my off-grid home, I would > emphatically say that it is not. The programming is inadequate, to put it > kindly. And their support really doesn't have a clue about lead-acid - > Fortress support literally said that they don't recommend pairing the Envy > with l-a. However, I don't have an opinion about how it does with closed loop > Li batteries. > I did recently install an EG4 18k system, off-grid, with the client's > knowledge that this was a bit of an experiment for me. Both the Envy and the > EG4 are made by LuxPower and have been, to date, physically and > programmatically almost identical. I had stayed away from EG4 since it seemed > to be primarily aimed at the DIY market. However, the 18k appears to be a > serious contender so far, although this installation is a fairly low stress > situation. I've been fairly impressed with the system. While this 18k is > paired with EG4 Lithium batteries, EG4 has been making adjustments to the > firmware to make it much more friendly to lead-acid. If you decide to go this > route, check with EG4 (installer support - ask for Jarrett or Colt) to see > where they are at with upgrading the firmware. > I am also eagerly awaiting Midnite's AIO entry... > > Howie > > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 9:02 AM John Blittersdorf via RE-wrenches > <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > <mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>> wrote: > Time will tell where the failure modes are. I still don't like all the eggs > in one basket. Do you have to send the units back for repair? Had enough of > that with Trace SW series inverters.. > For off grid, I'll stick to the tried and true for now. For Grid tie it is > just a financial hit. For off-grid power loss it is more important to deal > with right away.. > > I am going to try a Fortress Envy at my off grid home but will keep my > Outback field repairable VFXR wired in just in case. I had a massive > lightning strike between my house and a guest cabin 1/4 mile away and I lost > power from my Fortress Eflex battery at the cabin and my Outback inverter at > my house. I replaced the control board on my inverter ( I always keep one in > reserve as it is usually the only board failure due to lightning) and was > back on line in 1/2 hour and Fortress rushed me a new BMS board for the > E-flex and a day later and a half hour swap had it back in service, Now it > is a different story with 2 Simpliphi batteries I have from a customer that > failed. I have to ship them to California to have them evaluated to see if > we had damaged them by misuse. Lots of expense and time lost. > > > > John Blittersdorf > CV Wind Service / Off Grid Vermont > 802-770-8625 > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 11:43 PM Scot Arey via RE-wrenches > <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > <mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>> wrote: > Wow, are we in the golden age of inverter/chargers? If it had 200-a.p pass > thru it would be near perfect. > > Begs the question: are stand alone charge controllers becoming a historical > artifact? > > Howard "Scot" Arey > Owner, Solar CenTex > 254-300-1228 > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > <http://re-wrenches.org/> > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > <mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > <http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org> > > There are two list archives for searching. 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