Le 7 févr. 07 à 18:03 Soir, Kirk Gray a écrit:

On Feb 7, 2007, at 9:27 AM, John Balestrieri wrote:

I'm disappointed at how such a sweeping decision about the 'community' was not made with the knowledge or consensus of the 'community.' -- and now this community is talking about moving to alternative lists.

To the Community: REAL has a point about consolidation; by taking the list elsewhere I think you're diluting yourselves. I think the lists are a great supplement to the documentation -- better than a wiki, even. Sure, it's great to get it by email, but another great strength is the centralized quality of it: there are mirrors and archives of the lists, and if you're looking for info, that's a good place to start. By starting your own lists, you're causing more redundancy than what prompted REAL to want to drop the lists in the first place.

First, the assumption is that redundancy is a Bad Thing. Having two or more places to find information, in my opinion, is never a Bad Thing.

Maybe it's more manageable for them to avoid redundancy.

Second, the assumption is that redundancy exists. It's been my experience that the forums are beginner-oriented and more Windows friendly. Whereas the mailing lists contain more technical information and are often more Mac friendly (which is good for me as I develop on the Mac OS).

I completely agree.

In the forums, offer a suggestion or helpful criticism and you get childish side-taking and name calling. More than once I've seen an RS employee resort to, "if you don't like it, write your own compiler."

In the mailing lists, suggestion and criticism are met with thoughtful discussion of pros and cons.

If you'd like an example -- read the posts on the mailing lists explaining why and how forums and mailing lists function differently. Then read the topic "Closing the mailing lists" in Off Topic on the forums. Here you'll see some mailing list folk trying to make their point. Now read the forum's populace responses. Mostly things like "grow up" "stop whining" and "cry babies" no real discussion of how the two technologies differ or how to improve them.

Typical, indeed.


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