I just downloaded an app thats about 5megs. And waited for 20+MB to download. 
It was a simple chat app.

The issue is bloatware.

Not everyone has .net installed.

Im not saying that .net does not have its place, but there are some apps that 
should remain small and compact.



-----Original Message-----
From: "Stefan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "REALbasic NUG" <[email protected]>
Sent: 2/18/2007 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: Cocoa


What's the point? That the .Net framework is as big as a big RB app?
Don't understand, since you need to download the framework only once.

Moreover, Vista will surely include .Net. Doesn't XP offer the  
framework by means
of the system auto-update process?

Simple apps are really small, while, complex ones like Paint.Net  
[free and really nice] is 5 MB.

Am 17.02.2007 um 21:07 schrieb Giovanni:

> The only thing about .NET is the size of the framework.
>
> If you need a simple app, your app may be 4 Megs but the framework  
> is atleast 20MB so thats 24MB to download.
>
>
> Stefan wrote:
>>
>> Am 17.02.2007 um 15:23 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>>
>>> But... It's always a struggle between the speed of RB and the  
>>> beauty of the Frameworks of the OS. As said I'm using a lot of  
>>> graphics and spend a lot of time in searching for the right way  
>>> create it between the relative high walls of RB. RB for me is  
>>> only used to create Mac Apps and won't compile to Win.
>>
>> I'd propose to give Cocoa a try, in case you write pure OS X apps.  
>> Cocoa isn't that
>> complicated - once you invested some time in learning basics of  
>> the language and basics
>> of the framework.
>>
>> If you need to write DB-bound stuff, CoreData and bindings is  
>> simply great.
>>
>> As I posted earlier, several sites mentioned the fact, that Apple  
>> is going to
>> implement a garbage collector in Cocoa. This, there will shortly  
>> be no need
>> for complex malloc/free problem hunting. If garbage collection is  
>> finally available,
>> you never need to release anything - as in RB.
>>
>> In case you need to go Window: Additionally, you might wish to  
>> review Apple's developer
>> site. There is an article, which explains the usage .Net and Cocoa  
>> for cross platform
>> projects.
>>
>> Finally, C# and Visual Studio are really nice solutions. You can  
>> even deploy your
>> compiled .Net apps by means of web-downloads - the user doesn't  
>> need to run a installer
>> and the app checks for updates for free.
>>
>> All in all: Starting Cocoa isn't done in 3 days, but any time  
>> investment will give
>> you very good return.
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