Great Advice Jeff! 
 
You said it all, and politely I might add.
 
Keep asking questions, it's the only way to learn, good luck Maria.
 
Thank you for your time,
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Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [RealEstate] Re: RE investment ???

I had to chime in on this.
JT
 
Going to a realtor to learn about real estate is like going to a used car salesman to learn how the car works, for the most part neither understands the products they sell, just self promotion and commission checks are what they are focused on.
 
Gordon,
you assume to much, she is a newbie real estate investor, read her email address
 
Find the busiest agent in your market area........the "busiest" because he/she is the most ethical, who are you kidding, I think we have a true believer here. LOL! If you believe successful people are the most ethical than by all means start your day with a thorizin drip.
 
But if what you are really offering is "nothing"...........then go away, and stop trashing our way of life........the agents in this crazy business that CARE are trying to offer the "sellers" some sort of program to justify the crazy commissions we charge. If you are offering "nothing".......then charge the sellers "nothing". what this passage means is that Gordon is frustrated and does not make much money. Judging by his website around 19 listings and and 13 agents, as per your litmus test for success, I guess you guys need to work on your ethics
 
In short Gordon don't be such a dick with someone who is trying to better themselves, hopefully you are not this person and just responded due to the stress of a bad day. Gordon, sorry to jump on you Someone needs to help poor Maria out here. Not just transfer they own negativity on her for asking a simple question
 
Maria
do not let negative people spoil your goals for you, as for learning real estate investing from a real estate agent, you may find one to do that from, good luck, 90 percent of them have no idea what we do and will be quick to dismiss us as it interferes with their limited knowledge of real estate, Generally the busiest brokers in town are not investor's, just good marketers and someone who has paid there dues in the market and has name recognition, which ( good for them for achiveing their goals).
 
Maria, as far as buying seller leads spend your money doing your own marketing, I have tried to buy leads and they all are junk, picked over many times and sold to many people. get a couple books on marketing and make a plan. Try the Guerrilla marketing series by Jay Conrad Levinson
 
Here is another tip, go to www.nationalreia.com and find your local real estate club there you can network with like minded people. Real estate investing can be a springboard to helping you achieve goals and dreams
 
Thats all I have to say about that.
Jeff Tumbarello
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Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 12:27 AM
Subject: [RealEstate] Re: RE investment ???

 
Dear Maria,
 
As a real estate broker in Oregon....I have one question for you, Maria?
 
If I were a seller of real estate, why would I work with you?
What are you offering me?
 
You say you've been in the "business" for a few months..........been in what? business for  a few months?
Real Estate?
Do you have a license?
If not.......here's some great advice.
Find the busiest agent in your market area........the "busiest" because he/she is the most ethical........AND offers the most services to his/her clients.
Ask him/her to take you under their wing.....and find out what it is that you can offer their clients.....buyer or seller.
If it's nothing......get the hell out of this business.
It you have something concrete to offer their clients.....tell the agent what it is..........and they will know how to "plug" you into the system to make everybody happy.
But if what you are really offering is "nothing"...........then go away, and stop trashing our way of life........the agents in this crazy business that CARE are trying to offer the "sellers" some sort of program to justify the crazy commissions we charge. If you are offering "nothing".......then charge the sellers "nothing".
 
Thank you.
 
Sincerely,
 
 
A Broker who is gettting ICREASINGLY pissed with part-time "realtors" who offer............shit.
 
Cordially,
 
 
Gordon & June Smith
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