My 5 cents about this topic: SL is a fenced Island and opensimulator (SL based worlds) will just succeed if they will bring features to the users and content creators that are not matched by Secondlife.
Imho the concept of creating an Apache like 3d Web would benefit the above mentioned groups far more. If the focus is set to a better user experience, manageability, ease of use for newcomers and content creators, then on legacy compatibility, users will be willing easily to adapt, if they get more compelling content and features. Except for the nice GUI design of the SL 2.0 viewer, the full functional web support and some nice features adapted from Emerald its still the old concept of a walled garden under the hood. What sense makes a new king in old clothes anyhow? On Feb 25, 8:54 pm, Lawson English <lengli...@cox.net> wrote: > Mark Malewski wrote: > > What exactly is the difference between the old (1st generation) > > SL-based viewers and the new "SL 2" viewer? > > > How hard would it be to make OpenSim, ModRex and Naali all compatible > > with the newer "SL 2" viewer? > > > If Second Life is transitioning towards their new "SL 2" viewer, then > > shouldn't we make Naali "SL 2" compatible? So that it remains > > compatible with SL? > > > I'm assuming that LL has added some additional features and > > improvements to their "SL 2" viewer, and it might be good to maintain > > backwards compatibility with SL (for the mostpart). > > > So at least content developers can easily develop content that can be > > used in both OpenSim and SL. > > > I don't have a problem with abandoning the old "SL 1" viewer > > technology, just as long as we fully support the newer "SL 2" viewer > > technology (and remain backwards compatible with it). > > > The newer "SL 2" viewer has a much nicer UI, and since SL is heading > > that direction, I think Naali should at least head that direction as > > well (and try to maintain backwards compatibility with SL 2 viewer). > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5pKGnkcQHo > > > I really do like the idea of adding a "tattoo" layer (similar to what > > realxtend was doing) and "Alpha masks" (the ability to make parts of > > your body invisible). > > > So it seems like SL is just attempting to do some of the same things > > that we were already working on, so it might not hurt to just try and > > make Naali backwards compatible with the "SL Viewer 2" features. > > > Also the newer UI does look quite a bit nicer than the old UI, and > > since Naali is being designed from the ground up, it might not be bad > > to add a menu bar, and a collapse-able side panel that is compatible > > with "SL Viewer 2", so that Naali could be used both in OpenSim, > > realXtend, and in SL (and supports all the "SL Viewer 2" features and > > functionality). > > > ModRex and OpenSim might need some updating, but it would be good to > > maintain backwards compatibility with the "SL Viewer 2". > > > As content developers make new content (that is compatible with SL > > Viewer 2) such as tattoos, and the "Alpha masks" features, it would be > > good to make sure that content can be directly used both in OpenSim > > and in SL. That way content is interchangeable between OpenSim and > > SL, and content developers don't have to design content that is > > completely different or incompatible. > > > I think maintaining backwards compatibility with the new "SL Viewer 2" > > is a good feature to have in Naali. I also really do like the idea of > > being able to use Naali in both Second Life and OpenSim, and realXtend. > > > Mark > > At this point the SnowGlobe 2 svn is *supposed to* be 100% the same as > the closed Viewer 2.0... The idea is that SG2 will eventually be a > "webkit" for SL viewers. > > Please reconsider supporting SL with naali. I've been chating with > Antont about you guys making a presentation to the AW Groupies sometime > in the next week or two. There's lots of pent up resentment about the LL > policy changes and you can probably recruit new developers from us, but > even so, don't just walk off. ENough pressure on LL should make them > behave more rationally and everyone wins if they do. > > Lawson -- http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend http://www.realxtend.org
