*Ryan* Thanks :) Still have to do building from sources to Naali page, update svn to git. I think rest is quite similar.
*Shack* Well if you don't get any keys with default bindings then this is different. My best guess is that you don't have a admin account or you are not running in administrator mode. We are using Qt frameworks QSettings to do there .ini configs, I tell QSettings to open data/default_bindings.ini this might require read and *write *access to the file. I'm not sure if we are still having issues to run naali with write access under program files if you are not admin. You can try this: 1. Remove c:\users\<you>\AppData\Roaming\realXtend\bindings\current.ini this will force Naali to get data\default_bindings.ini on the next start 2. Locate your Naali install folder, right click on the folder -> Properties, with the attributes and un-check "Read-only" if set. Do the same for <naali_install>\data should apply this to default_bindings.ini 3. Go to Naali install folder and right click on viewer.exe -> Run As Administrator This is not a proper solution but if you do this and get bindings loaded ok then we have more data to fix the bug. If it works you could do only steps 1. 3. first, might do the trick also. As we have had run as administrator fix things that write inside data folder. I think the proper solution is to only read data/default_bindings.ini and writing it to same place once as current.ini in appdata. Thanks for reporting back so we can make Naali better :) Ps. We should make a separated thread for "Having problems with Naali 0.2.0", Ryan? Best regards, Jonne Nauha realXtend developer http://www.realxtend.org/ http://www.evocativi.com/ On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Ryan McDougall <[email protected]> wrote: > Jonne, you've really outdone yourself with the new getting started guides! > > That's some pretty tireless work there. :) > > Cheers, > > On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Jonne Nauha <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Wiki Updates > > I have now went through the Getting Started With wiki pages. Had to > update > > some out dated information. I also made them nice and shiny with images > and > > proper formatting. Modified the wikis main page to make a bit more sense > > also :) On the Naali page I didn't edit the Avatar and Environment editor > > parts, I'll leave those to the original writers to check if information > is > > out dated. > > http://wiki.realxtend.org/index.php/Getting_Started_with_Naali > > http://wiki.realxtend.org/index.php/Getting_Started_with_Taiga > > > > To Shack You are having some mysterious issues there. How the bindings > > works, on startup it goes to check your config folder and checks if a > custom > > config has been defined. If so it will be used (as your case is when you > > went and defined those movement buttons) other wise it will fallback to > > default bindings. The default bindings are located in > > data/default_bindings.ini and this file never changes, only get read when > > default is needed on startup or you click reset to naali defaults from > the > > UI. One possible explanation is that either the file has been tampered > with > > to have invalid key values or there is some kind of read/write violation > > going on. The latter would not explain why it gets some default keys and > > others not. Very mysterious indeed, I cant figure quickly what could go > > wrong there but I'm glad you found a fix for this via the UI. I would > need > > to replicate your situation to fix the bug, and that might be quite hard > as > > I have never crashed like that :) Lets see if others will experience the > > same bug to get more info about it. > > Best regards, > > Jonne Nauha > > realXtend developer > > > > http://www.realxtend.org/ > > http://www.evocativi.com/ > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 5:21 AM, Shack Dougall <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> Jonne, > >> > >> Thanks for the help! Thanks to you, I was able to get it running. > >> > >> I was trying to use the realXtend avatar, but I didn't understand that > it > >> required something outside of the Taiga install. I switched to an > OpenSim > >> avatar and I was able to get in. > >> > >> After that, the only problem was that the movement keys were not defined > >> when I first entered the world. Naali would connect and login to the > world > >> fine. I would see the island and the water, but if I pressed any key, > then > >> Naali would crash with a dump. > >> > >> Through experimentation, I discovered that all of the other controls > were > >> working. I could open the inventory, change the sun, edit the avatar, > etc. > >> And when I looked at Settings > Controls, I noticed that the Movement > keys > >> were not defined. I tried Restore Naali Defaults, but that had no > effect. > >> However, it started working when I manually set the movement keys to W S > A > >> D. > >> > >> Thanks again! --Shack > >> > >> > >> On 4/1/2010 5:32 PM, Jonne Nauha wrote: > >> > >> Hi Shack, > >> The config wizard doesn't affect the database settings of modrex > >> (opensim/addon-modules/modrex/config/modrex.ini) I think . The default > is > >> sqlite but you can manually go and edit the database stuff, I assume > thats > >> in the wiki but if not ill add it tomorrow. So what most likely happened > >> that sqlite initialised correctly on the second try as you running the > >> wizard again did not affect modrex db settings. Sqlite is ok for modrex, > for > >> rest of the grid mysql is preferred but I dont see any reason why sqlite > >> would not work for the grid services and opesim too. Shortly but with > older > >> taiga the problem was that cablebeach code did not live inside opensim, > so > >> cb didnt have access to opesim.data.*.dll:s so mysql was pretty much > forced > >> to be used. Now with ScienceSim (basically new improved cablebeach) all > the > >> servers have access to all of the db helpers. I have not personally > tried > >> running everything on sqlite but it should be technically possible now. > >> Taiga 0.1 is run in grid mode. This means you do logins to the user > server > >> (that will authenticate you and inform the sim that you are soon going > to be > >> logging in), that is defaulted to 8002. As if you have run opensim in > >> standalone mode earlier you did the login to OpenSim port (default > 9000). > >> You can access your Taiga 0.1 server with two kinds of avatars, OpenSim > and > >> realXtend. You can create new opensim accounts in the user server, it's > the > >> one of the four consoles that reads UserServer # (if i remember > correctly. > >> Just type "create user" hit enter and give the info it wants. Now in > Naali > >> you add new avatar in ether, enter the just created accounts firstname, > >> lastname and password. Add a new server card enter address/ip with port > 8002 > >> (if servers are on the same machine just put localhost:8002). You can > also > >> create a realXtend account, there are many places but one that we host > is > >> http://world.evocativi.com just click Register on top and insert you > data. > >> Then you can add similarly a relaXtend avatar card. For example username > = > >> jonnenauha, server http://world.evocativi.com:10001. > >> Hope that helps until I get the wiki updated. > >> Best regards, > >> Jonne Nauha > >> realXtend developer > >> > >> http://www.realxtend.org/ > >> http://www.evocativi.com/ > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Shack Dougall <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> I just used the config wizard. It's my first time installing Taiga and > >>> it went well. > >>> > >>> I had a small problem with OpenSim. The first time that I ran > start.bat, > >>> OpenSim had trouble setting up the RexObject database. Looked like it > was > >>> going for SQLite instead of MySQL. I re-ran the config wizard and > restarted > >>> again and it worked. > >>> > >>> But now I'm stuck at the Naali login screen. I skimmed the Getting > >>> Started with Naali wiki. In the past, I've been running OpenSim > standalone > >>> with the Second Life viewer. With Naali, I'm not sure what I need to > do to > >>> add my Taiga world. > >>> > >>> Assume that I took all the defaults in the config wizard. What ports > >>> should I use in the New Avatar (server) and New World (login url) > screens? > >>> > >>> This has got to be a faq, so point me to it if the question is answered > >>> somewhere. > >>> > >>> Thanks in advance! --Shack > >>> > >>> On 4/1/2010 3:56 PM, Jonne Nauha wrote: > >>> > >>> I'm sorry for the confusion Alberto. I think I spesifically asked (the > >>> guy who updated the server wikis) to change database names as they are > >>> totally different from the earlier Taiga setup. I think he just forgot > or > >>> something as we made the wiki updates in a small rush due to most of > the day > >>> went in making the release :) I have corrected this part now to the > wiki. > >>> Good thing that you read my README on the servers as it had the correct > db > >>> names :) Btw did you use the wiazard to make the configs? If so what > did > >>> you think about it in general? > >>> For everyone: The "Getting Started With Taiga" wiki page should be > quite > >>> well up to date with this fix. The "Getting Started With Naali" wiki > page I > >>> mostly updated to latest info and took a couple of screeshots. All > >>> potentially outdated data in the Naali page is marked with a small > note. I > >>> will personally check both pages tomorrow and take new screenshots. > Please > >>> post to the mailing list if you are having trouble with either release > and > >>> well provide help. > >>> > >>> Best regards, > >>> Jonne Nauha > >>> realXtend developer > >>> > >>> http://www.realxtend.org/ > >>> http://www.evocativi.com/ > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Gustavo Alberto Navarro Bilbao > >>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Starting: > >>>> > >>>> I suggest than in the wiki: > >>>> > http://wiki.realxtend.org/index.php/Getting_Started_with_ScienceSim_Taiga, > >>>> to change the indication of the databases to the new ones: opensim, > grid and > >>>> taigawebdav > >>>> > >>>> If not it could be confused just like it was for me > >>>> > >>>> Alberto > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> 2010/4/1 Gustavo Alberto Navarro Bilbao <[email protected]> > >>>>> > >>>>> Thank you very much for your work. > >>>>> Hispagrid members were expecting this release to be published on our > >>>>> website and encourage our users to do tests, but unfortunately a fire > >>>>> destroyed yesterday in Barcelona the servers where we had > Hispagrid.(no, no > >>>>> is a April's fools'prank either) > >>>>> I will post on our blogs, but do not have as many readers than in the > >>>>> HG one. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks again for your work and dedication. Dolowing and to start to > >>>>> test them > >>>>> > >>>>> Alberto > >>>>> > >>>>> 2010/4/1 Antti Ilomäki <[email protected]> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Fooled you! I bet you thought this would be an April Fools' prank, > but > >>>>>> it isn't! The 0.2 version of the Naali viewer and the 0.1 version of > the > >>>>>> Taiga server are now available. There are a lot of exciting new > features we > >>>>>> wanted to show you already, although there's still stabilization > work. After > >>>>>> this release we'll focus on updating the documentation and polishing > the > >>>>>> current features. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Those of you who haven't compiled the source codes between the > >>>>>> releases should get ready for some major changes. The most > immediately > >>>>>> obvious difference is the new UI. Avatar and world selections are > now done > >>>>>> in the new "Ether" interface that makes surfing the immersive web > simpler > >>>>>> than before. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It's not just a visual treat either, thanks to the (rather > >>>>>> rudimentary) Mumble integration Naali now has. For now you have to > >>>>>> separately install the Mumble client to use the in-world spatial > voice, but > >>>>>> a better integration is on the way. There are also multiple > improvements to > >>>>>> in-world editing and scripting tools. There's a Mumble-enabled > server at > >>>>>> world.realxtend.org:9000 for you to test (cosmic rays broke the > scripts, > >>>>>> though, and we're working on a fix). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Don't forget that you're still looking at an early version of the > >>>>>> Naali viewer and even more so with the Taiga server. There's a lot > you can > >>>>>> already do with the software and we'd like you to give it a shot and > report > >>>>>> back, but at this stage bugs and missing features are to be > expected. > >>>>>> With the Taiga 0.1 released we can finally say that the > >>>>>> next-generation realXtend we started working on a little over a year > ago has > >>>>>> arrived. Taiga is basically the good old OpenSimulator plus ModreX > >>>>>> combination (now based on ScienceSim) with the advanced Cable Beach > >>>>>> functionality included. To make life easier for server admins we > have > >>>>>> included a GUI for the management functions. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Now would be a very good time to start reporting and (even better!) > >>>>>> fixing the bugs together with the rest of the community. Your > contributions > >>>>>> are greatly appreciated and as the platform matures we hope to see > more and > >>>>>> more interest from developers who wish to participate in developing > >>>>>> realXtend with us. I hope you will all have as much fun using > realXtend as > >>>>>> we've had developing it. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Naali 0.2 Donwload: http://github.com/realXtend/naali/downloads > >>>>>> Taiga 0.1 Donwload: http://github.com/realXtend/taiga/downloads > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Instructions (under construction, updated shortly): > >>>>>> > http://wiki.realxtend.org/index.php/Main_Page#Naali_and_Taiga_releases > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend > >>>>>> http://www.realxtend.org > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend > >>>> http://www.realxtend.org > >>> > >>> -- > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend > >>> http://www.realxtend.org > >>> > >>> -- > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend > >>> http://www.realxtend.org > >> > >> -- > >> http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend > >> http://www.realxtend.org > >> > >> -- > >> http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend > >> http://www.realxtend.org > > > > -- > > http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend > > http://www.realxtend.org > > -- > http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend > http://www.realxtend.org > > To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > -- http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend http://www.realxtend.org
