Hi Jason, Donald and all, I'm everyday working with Macromedia Director so I don't have so much experience with Flash directly but I think these two products are very similar in some aspects. >From my POV Macromedia stuff and their philosophy is very poor against Rebol. Yes, Flash and Director has some more gfx features than /View but man, It is version 5(Flash) and 8.5(Director)!! I think Macromedia has just one big monopol in their "internet-multimedia" field/market because there is not almost any good alternative technology to compete with. If RT guys would work on /View multimedia stuff intesively for about one year they could have made /View as a big competitior against Flash(Director). Rebol/View, although it lacks (for now) things like vector gfx, font engine, rotation, alpha channels, free sound, streaming, multimedia format support, embedded plugin, it has lots of advatnages...very good core, the language itself, the communication stuff such as ports, protocols, and very good mutiplatfom standard quality, cheap prize. (I believe, most of you will agree that we couldnot compare Rebol against crappy ActionScript or even Lingo.)
Anyway both technologies has own cool developers and software pieces( just have a look at: http://www.vectorlounge.com/04_amsterdam/jam/wireframe.html ) I don't want to make any flame wars against MM fans/haters. I just wanted to point out the possibilities for Rebol/View(Hey RT guys! What about eat few pieces from big Macromedias money-pie? ;-) ). I still believe RT could make from /View far more better multimedia engine than all MM products are... just my 2 cents ;) regards Cyphre ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Dalley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 4:49 PM Subject: [REBOL] Flash tech? Was Re: Re: (No subject)Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:20:09 -0500 > Hello, Jason: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jason Cunliffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 12:45 AM > Subject: [REBOL] Re: (No subject)Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:20:09 -0500 > > > But a REBOL-FLASH dialect may be very useful path towards that. > > > > One should not understand the fundamental strength of the Flash dynamic > > object paradigm: nested Flash movie clips each of which have their own > > timeline. [goodexample: http://www.levitated.net/ ] > > That's it? ;^( > > I have yet to see any redeeming value to any Flash, including these. Some > don't work (at least 2 didn't at your paradigm site); most authors don't use > redundancy access methods, in case it won't work right, locking non-Flash > and/or Flash users out of a site entirely (found another site last week); > most are an assault on my senses (read as yuck, yeow! or who cares); all > take too long to acquire, unless you have DSL/cable (read as too BIG, > restrictive and, ultimately, a grand waste of my time). > > In short, Flash sucks, big time! I am not alone in thinking that Flash is a > technology/art looking for an audience - a make-work project enabler. > Someone may find a useful, necessary or earth-shattering application for it > some day, but, until then, I remain skeptical and unimpressed by its usage. > > How is REBOL going to benefit from that kind of environment? Bad > programming/content is bad programming/content, no matter what the > language/art or medium in which it is done. > > > Sorry, Jason - I am not being anti-art, here, or a tech Ludite. I grew up > surrounded by arts/fine arts and am now an artist in my own ways, too - it's > just that I know what I like. In Flash's case, it's what I don't like. > > Besides, from the POV of a Libra, it looked as if this Flash love-in needed > some "balance". <stepping off soapbox> > > Donald Dalley > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the > subject, without the quotes. > > --- Odchozí zpráva neobsahuje viry. Zkontrolováno antivirovým systémem AVG (http://www.grisoft.cz). Verze: 6.0.282 / Virová báze: 150 - datum vydání: 25.9.2001 -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.