Isn't that normal operations for the US? They go where they figure their
'national interests' are being threatened regardless of anything else. I
guess now we'll find out how it feels to be a non-ally or at least even
more of a nonentity... 

Trudy

Don Clark wrote:
> 
> I wonder then what is being thought about the fact that the US will have its
> own troops on standby in ships just outside Sydney - with the knowledge and
> permission of the various politicians.
> 
> I understand that statements have been made that the commander of the force
> will make the decision on whether their troops will invade a foreign land
> rather than have to wait for an invitation from the prime miniature.
> 
> don
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Duffield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
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> Sent: Friday, 18 August 2000 3:05 P.M.
> Subject: [recoznet2] Australian Troops Armed Against Australians?!
> 
> >                                       12 Hurrey Place
> >                                       BEECHBORO  WA  6063
> >
> >                                       18th August 2000
> >
> >
> > To all thinking Australians, but mostly to politicians...
> >
> > As an ex career soldier I am alarmed at the nature, structure and
> > constitutional abrogation within this act for Aid to the Civil Authority.
> >
> > The Governor General is, constitutionally, the "Command in Chief" of the
> > Armed forces of Australia.  In any case where the Australian Armed Forces
> > are called upon to quell unrest by Australians, more than politics (and
> > therefore politicians) is involved.
> >
> > I cannot conceive of any such situation where the GG could abrogate his
> > responsibility of command to enable Australians to bear Arms against
> > Australians, where just one side of politics would be involved.
> >
> > My proposition is that the GG must know, via an act enabled amendment to
> > the membership of the Executive council perhaps, or by separate briefing,
> > the opinion of the Leader of Her Majesty's Opposition.  Anything less is
> > Stalin or Hitleresque.
> >
> > Surely in this situation the GG must speak for all Australians?
> >
> > When I was commissioned at Canungra I asked what the latin on my "pips"
> > meant.  Nobody could tell me.
> >
> > I discovered that it was a call of the Crusader Knights "Tria Juncta in
> > Uno" a call to the holy Christian trinity.  As a non Christian I had to
> > work out just what this meant to me - today in Oz.
> >
> > After much pondering I decided that as I was commissioned by the Governor
> > General (my constitutional "Command in Chief" not politicians!) then this
> > "pip" called me to the highest human office in my nation - a place where
> > one decides just who lives and who dies.
> >
> > Thus, even, should the occasion arise when commanded by my "Command in
> > Chief" to undertake an immoral or ignoble task, I could, indeed must,
> > refuse.
> >
> > I can tell you that as the great grandson of a man who was a trade
> unionist
> > ridden down by English Troops in the 1880s, given the task to wade into my
> > fellow Australians, without a proper and unified briefing of my "Command
> in
> > Chief" - I would have to refuse.
> >
> >
> > Jim Duffield
> > Retired Captain
> > Royal Australian Engineers
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://www.kultcher.com/ --- Jim Duffield
> >
> >  "A society that values planned teaching above autonomous
> >   learning cannot but teach man to keep his engineered
> >   place."              Ivan Illich - Limits to Medicine
> >
> > http://www.louis.asn.au         http://www.deathsincustody.com/
> >
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