Yes it's normal for the US. However, the difference here is that the
government knows and approves of it all.
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: "Trudy & Rod Bray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [recoznet2] Australian Troops Armed Against Australians?!
> Isn't that normal operations for the US? They go where they figure their
> 'national interests' are being threatened regardless of anything else. I
> guess now we'll find out how it feels to be a non-ally or at least even
> more of a nonentity...
>
> Trudy
>
> Don Clark wrote:
> >
> > I wonder then what is being thought about the fact that the US will have
its
> > own troops on standby in ships just outside Sydney - with the knowledge
and
> > permission of the various politicians.
> >
> > I understand that statements have been made that the commander of the
force
> > will make the decision on whether their troops will invade a foreign
land
> > rather than have to wait for an invitation from the prime miniature.
> >
> > don
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Duffield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, 18 August 2000 3:05 P.M.
> > Subject: [recoznet2] Australian Troops Armed Against Australians?!
> >
> > > 12 Hurrey Place
> > > BEECHBORO WA 6063
> > >
> > > 18th August 2000
> > >
> > >
> > > To all thinking Australians, but mostly to politicians...
> > >
> > > As an ex career soldier I am alarmed at the nature, structure and
> > > constitutional abrogation within this act for Aid to the Civil
Authority.
> > >
> > > The Governor General is, constitutionally, the "Command in Chief" of
the
> > > Armed forces of Australia. In any case where the Australian Armed
Forces
> > > are called upon to quell unrest by Australians, more than politics
(and
> > > therefore politicians) is involved.
> > >
> > > I cannot conceive of any such situation where the GG could abrogate
his
> > > responsibility of command to enable Australians to bear Arms against
> > > Australians, where just one side of politics would be involved.
> > >
> > > My proposition is that the GG must know, via an act enabled amendment
to
> > > the membership of the Executive council perhaps, or by separate
briefing,
> > > the opinion of the Leader of Her Majesty's Opposition. Anything less
is
> > > Stalin or Hitleresque.
> > >
> > > Surely in this situation the GG must speak for all Australians?
> > >
> > > When I was commissioned at Canungra I asked what the latin on my
"pips"
> > > meant. Nobody could tell me.
> > >
> > > I discovered that it was a call of the Crusader Knights "Tria Juncta
in
> > > Uno" a call to the holy Christian trinity. As a non Christian I had
to
> > > work out just what this meant to me - today in Oz.
> > >
> > > After much pondering I decided that as I was commissioned by the
Governor
> > > General (my constitutional "Command in Chief" not politicians!) then
this
> > > "pip" called me to the highest human office in my nation - a place
where
> > > one decides just who lives and who dies.
> > >
> > > Thus, even, should the occasion arise when commanded by my "Command in
> > > Chief" to undertake an immoral or ignoble task, I could, indeed must,
> > > refuse.
> > >
> > > I can tell you that as the great grandson of a man who was a trade
> > unionist
> > > ridden down by English Troops in the 1880s, given the task to wade
into my
> > > fellow Australians, without a proper and unified briefing of my
"Command
> > in
> > > Chief" - I would have to refuse.
> > >
> > >
> > > Jim Duffield
> > > Retired Captain
> > > Royal Australian Engineers
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://www.kultcher.com/ --- Jim Duffield
> > >
> > > "A society that values planned teaching above autonomous
> > > learning cannot but teach man to keep his engineered
> > > place." Ivan Illich - Limits to Medicine
> > >
> > > http://www.louis.asn.au http://www.deathsincustody.com/
> > >
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