Hi.
I'd like to use this forum to attempt to get a straight answer from
Redhat on this one :)
Redhat 6.2 is shipping with an extremely, painfully out of date version
of enlightenment (http://www.enlightenment.org)
I work on this wm, and would like an explanation from someone at Redhat
please. We have worked hard to improve the product, and 0.16.x is a
league ahead of 0.15.x in terms of useability and performance. We have
written several gui config tools and lots of documentation.
I have read the explanation on the site, which is basically "we couldn't
be bothered to configure it, so we stuck with the old version", and am
rather annoyed as a result :)
The only change that could explain this is the fact the current
Enlightenment version doesn't come perfectly configured for use with
GNOME out of the box, but actually requires two config files to be
changed slightly (wow), and one compile-time option to a supplementary
package (epplets), whereas the last version was ideally suited out of
the box.
Mandrake 7.0, Suse 6.3, Debian Potato and Storm Linux all include the
latest Enlightenment. Redhat obviously couldn't manage it somehow. Is
that the quality of the staff? Or the attitude?
Since when has Redhat's policy been "if it won't fit out of the box, we
won't tweak it or ask for it to be tweaked"? Every other rpm out there
has been tweaked to fit in...
We are an open developer community, and have a mailinglist and website.
We are approachable. Nobody from redhat approached us about configuring
Enlightenment to fit in with 6.2 (or more specifically, GNOME).
The 0.16.x documentation includes several FAQs on configuring
enlightenment for use with GNOME, and it is extremely easy to do. E is a
very configurable window manager, and many people use it in conjunction
with GNOME, no problem at all.
I personally made changes to the epplets library and package to include a
compile-time option to prevent epplets from interfering with
gnome-session, and e's session management features are totally "take it
or leave it" optional.
If anyone had asked, I'd have put the package together myself, or at
least assisted anyone wishing to do so. Instead, a substantially
inferior package is included, guarenteeing our mailinglist will be full
of:
o out of date bug reports
o feature requests for features we already added
o complaints about lack of documentation (which is now added)
o people downloading incompatible (newer) themes
o blah, blah, blah
Explanation from a Redhat person please? Why were we specifically
targetted not to get our latest version into the distro? Did we do
something wrong somehow?
By the way. For those of you wishing to use the best and latest version
of Enlightenment, you are welcome to compile it from source (available
from ftp.enlightenment.org) or get a more open minded and free-thinking
distro :)
And finally, every support request for 0.15.5 that comes from a redhat
6.2 user will be forwarded to this list. Thankyou.
Tom.
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