* Jason Costomiris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 05:41:47PM +0000, Tom Gilbert wrote:
> : > : > The whole finger-pointing thing when he left RHAT, and now GNOME is
> : > : > phasing out using Imlib in favor of GdkPixbuf, in order to overcome 
> : > : > shortcomings of Imlib that Raster doesn't seem willing to fix.
> : > : 
> : > : Not fixing? Are you aware of the nearly complete imlib2? Clearly not.
> : > 
> : > If imlib2 is the holy grail, why is GNOME dumping imlib in favor of
> : > GdkPixmap?
> : 
> : Holy grail? Don't remember mentioning that =)
> : 
> : And it's GdkPixbuf, not Pixmap. You obviously don't know the first thing
> : about it, so I will explain.
> 
> Rule #1 for mailing list/newsgroup for discussions where you have been
> caught being dumb: distract everyone else by telling the audience that 
> the other guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
> 
> So I mistyped one time.  As you can see from my previous post, I know it's
> GdkPixbuf.  Has the almighty Tom never once mistyped something?  You're
> becoming pretty juvenile.  Grow up, or we'll have to call your mommy.

Right. look. You spewed falsehoods about GNOME, Enlightenment, RHAT and
GdkPixbuf. I calmly, and in a friendly manner, explained to you what the
*actual* situation was, in great detail.

You respond with name calling. Thanks for that, it was very constructive.
 
> : You do know that Mandrake the distribution and Mandrake the E developer
> : are in no way connected don't you? I just want to check, as you seem
> : confused.
> 
> No, there is no confusion here, other than what you're reading into the
> situation.

It's a common mistake, and it was the only way I could put any relavence
to why you brought it up :) It had none otherwise :)

> : Also, the current Mandrake is a long, long way from being "few things
> : here & there, add/subtract a few packages". It is a very different
> : distribution, with its own strengths and weaknesses.
> 
> Note that I didn't say a thing about Mandrake *TODAY* (ie 7.0).  I said
> *DID*, which was take RedHat, drop in pgcc and update all the packages to 
> the absolute latest, less or more stable, and rebuild them all with lots
> of optimization.

We all have to start somewhere, no?

> : How this is relavent to the thread I'm not sure...
> 
> It's relevant in that you're very vocally unhappy with RedHat.  The beauty
> of the Linux world is that if you don't like how one group is doing it,
> you're free to go and do it your own way.

I'm not vocally unhappy with redhat. Read my first post. I was asking
for a response from a Redhat employee to explain the decision to one of
the developers. You (not a redhat employee) decided to respond in a rude
an non-constructive manner, spewing falsehoods left, right and center.

What starting another distro would solve is beyond me :)

I have indeed taken matters into my own hands in fact, and have written
modifications to the E cvs tree and an rpm .spec file and configuration
set specifically designed for use with RHAT and GNOME. When we release
DR0.16.4 at the end of the week, I will bundle up a E_GNOME.rpm and make
it available on the ftp site (ftp.enlightenment.org) for anyone wishing
to upgrade from the ancient version in RH6.2.

> : Now grow up some please and stop making a fool of yourself :)
> 
> Maybe you need to take a bit of your own medicine there, eh Doctor?

Erm. Re-read the thread. Examine the maturity of your statements.

> EOT, as far as I'm concerned.  You want to call someone a fool and tell
> them they don't know what they're talking about?  Look elsewhere.

But that's what you are doing. I was explaining something to you in a
friendly manner, something you obviously didn't know. You in fact
*asked* me to explain why GNOME was "dumping imlib", so I did. You then
complain that I answered? How strange.

Please don't post to threads when you have nothing positive to
contribute.

Tom.
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