I could be wrong but it almost sounds like iptables has been compiled 
into the kernel replacing ipchains.  In other words I don't think it was 
setup as a module.  Might want to re-roll your kernel and make sure 
iptables / netfilter is disabled.

Hope this helps.



>
>[root@ns1 root]# rmmod iptables
>rmmod: module iptables is not loaded
>Yet i still get the same iptables stop line as below in my previous post..
>
>[root@ns1 root]# insmod ipchains
>Using /lib/modules/2.4.9-21/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipchains.o
>/lib/modules/2.4.9-21/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipchains.o: init_module: 
>Device or resource busy
>Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including 
>invalid IO or IRQ parameters
>
>I have done a up2date on this machine. up2date -f -u.. nothing to update.. Im 
>confused....
>



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