Rational? You think that stating that it is a lie to say the injuries killed the team this year?
That's nuts. Just a piece of meat to start an argument. Munch munch. Crazy talk. ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Salemi Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 10:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: The Injury Inconsistency Screw you. I'm not miserable. Wipe off the Kool Aid mustache and accept rationale commentary for what it is. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]> wrote: The rationale below seems a wee bit .... INSANE to me. Look at the pitchers injured and the length of the injuries. Before they went on the disabled list, many of them were pitching horribly because of their nagging injuries. Thus, ERA rose. The fact you can't escape from is that this is one of the top teams in baseball. Wins don't lie. It's about the wins, right? Does anyone want to disagree about that? I liked the season except for the injuries. I liked the team except for the injuries. I'll take the same team next year and like it. CHEEEEEESE WHIZ!!!!!! This is truly the fellowship of the miserable. This team was great this year. Fun but tragic. Good, but not great. I really enjoyed it, though admittedly peripherally because of time doing other stuff. John ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: The Injury Inconsistency There is no doubt that injures will have cost the Sox something like 5 games this year (91 wins vs 96 perhaps). The narrative goes like this, "The Sox would have had a great season because of their pitching, but were decimated by injuries." The Sox were 9th out of 14 in ERA this year. So one should look at the list of injuries and expect to see a lot of pitchers. Here's what we see: Pitchers Injured Clay Buchholz (2 15d) DiceK (2 15d) Oki (1 15d) Beckett (1 d2d, 1 60d) Delcarman (1 15d) Lester(d2d) Players injured Beltre (d2d) Pedroia (d2d, 15d, d2d, 15d) Patterson(15d) JD Drew (d2d, d2d, d2d, d2d, d2d, d2d) Ellsbury (15d, 15d, d2d, 15d, 15d) Salty (15d) Veritek(season) Lowrie (60d) Hermida (15d) Cash (15d) Youk (d2d, d2d, d2d, season) Cameron(d2d, 15d, 15d) Lowell (15d) Martinez (d2d, 15d) So this team,built upon pitching, pitched very poorly. But it didn't have that many pitching injuries to point to. (And, despite all the injuries to players, the replacement players did a great job. The Sox are 2nd in Runs Scored.) So I think all this puts the lie to the idea that this season was lost due to injuries alone. If that were the case, one might just keep roughly the same team and try again next year. Instead, I think that this pitching focused organization failed in its primary strategy this year of delivering strong pitching, and that is the question that needs to be addressed in the off season. Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] <mailto:redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] <mailto:redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en.
