"Puts the lie to" means "contradicts", but in a fancy-pants way.
On 9/1/10, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]> wrote: > Rational? > > You think that stating that it is a lie to say the injuries killed the > team this year? > > That's nuts. > > Just a piece of meat to start an argument. Munch munch. > > Crazy talk. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Salemi > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 10:17 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: The Injury Inconsistency > > > > Screw you. I'm not miserable. > > > > Wipe off the Kool Aid mustache and accept rationale commentary for what > it is. > > On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Beaudoin, John > <[email protected]> wrote: > > The rationale below seems a wee bit .... INSANE to me. > > > > Look at the pitchers injured and the length of the injuries. Before > they went on the disabled list, many of them were pitching horribly > because of their nagging injuries. Thus, ERA rose. > > > > The fact you can't escape from is that this is one of the top teams in > baseball. Wins don't lie. It's about the wins, right? Does anyone > want to disagree about that? > > > > I liked the season except for the injuries. I liked the team except for > the injuries. > > I'll take the same team next year and like it. > > > > CHEEEEEESE WHIZ!!!!!! This is truly the fellowship of the miserable. > This team was great this year. Fun but tragic. Good, but not great. I > really enjoyed it, though admittedly peripherally because of time doing > other stuff. > > > > John > > > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:55 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: The Injury Inconsistency > > > > There is no doubt that injures will have cost the Sox something like 5 > games this year (91 wins vs 96 perhaps). > > > > The narrative goes like this, "The Sox would have had a great season > because of their pitching, but were decimated by injuries." > > > > The Sox were 9th out of 14 in ERA this year. So one should look at the > list of injuries and expect to see a lot of pitchers. > > > > Here's what we see: > > > > Pitchers Injured > > > > Clay Buchholz (2 15d) > > DiceK (2 15d) > > Oki (1 15d) > > Beckett (1 d2d, 1 60d) > > Delcarman (1 15d) > > Lester(d2d) > > > > Players injured > > > > Beltre (d2d) > > Pedroia (d2d, 15d, d2d, 15d) > > Patterson(15d) > > JD Drew (d2d, d2d, d2d, d2d, d2d, d2d) > > Ellsbury (15d, 15d, d2d, 15d, 15d) > > Salty (15d) > > Veritek(season) > > Lowrie (60d) > > Hermida (15d) > > Cash (15d) > > Youk (d2d, d2d, d2d, season) > > Cameron(d2d, 15d, 15d) > > Lowell (15d) > > Martinez (d2d, 15d) > > > > > > So this team,built upon pitching, pitched very poorly. But it didn't > have that many pitching injuries to point to. (And, despite all the > injuries to players, the replacement players did a great job. The Sox > are 2nd in Runs Scored.) > > > > So I think all this puts the lie to the idea that this season was lost > due to injuries alone. If that were the case, one might just keep > roughly the same team and try again next year. Instead, I think that > this pitching focused organization failed in its primary strategy this > year of delivering strong pitching, and that is the question that needs > to be addressed in the off season. > > > > Ray > > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > <mailto:redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > <mailto:redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > -- Sent from my mobile device Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" www.fpgasimulation.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. 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