Good point. Some of it may be due to expectations due to the size of the contract. This doesn't seem to come into play where Theo trades for, then signs an extension with, a particular player. Maybe they do more due diligence on someone for whom they are going to give up valued prospects? Versus just dumping cash for a player.
Dan D Central NJ USA ________________________________ From: Tom Salemi <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:33 PM Subject: Re: Yay! Beer! I'll actually pose a different question using Matt's info. Nearly every player Theo (or the Sox) has traded for has performed well going right back to Schilling in 2004. Cabrera, Bay, Victor Martinez, Gonzalez, Lowell, Beckett, even Saltamacchia. Gagne would be the obvious exception....am I missing some? But free agent signings have sucked ass. How does this happen? Is this fairly typical in baseball? On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: I'm not sure how you would take that into account. > >On Sep 26, 2011, at 8:37 AM, Matt & Olga McSorley <[email protected]> wrote: > > >This leads me to a question for the esteemed board: >> >>The proposition is: Theo fails to take into account the challenge of playing >>in Boston when he cuts free agent deals: >> >>Exhibit A: Orlando Cabrera. Was immediately comfortable with team and town. >>Theo ignored that and signed Renteria, whom he'd longlusted after. Didn't go >>well. (And I know there were other issues there.) >> >>Exhibit B: Jason Bay. Maybe an overrated player, but he worked in Boston. >>Theo's two attempts to fill the LF gap (Mike Cameron to CF, Ellsbury to LF; >>Crawford) have been disasters. >> >>Exhibit C: Alex Gonzalez. Had two productive stints with Sox, pushed out by >>Theo both times --first for Julio Lugo (catastrophe) and then for Marco >>Scutaro, who's been useful but less productive for more money than Gonzalez. >> >>Exhibit D: Lackey. Not sure anyone expected him to be this bad but the guy's >>always been a head case. The Angels didn't seem too broken up by his >>departure. >> >>And I haven't even gone into JD Drew... >> >>-- Matt >> >> >> >> >>From: Tom Salemi <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 11:23 AM >>Subject: Re: Yay! Beer! >> >> >>We'll have to eat his salary as we did with Renteria. >> >> >>On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Marc Lederman <[email protected]> >>wrote: >> >>But given Lackey's horrendous season, how can we expect anybody to take him >>off our hands? The best that we can hope for is he rebounds enough for >>someone else to want him. >>> >>> >>> >>>On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>D-bag, dirtbag, knucklehead...they all apply. >>>> >>>> >>>>I'm trying to be fair. We don't know the whole story, but this guy does not >>>>handle adversity well. He needs the next Renteria Express out of here. He >>>>can't handle Boston. >>>> >>>> >>>-- >>>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>"Red Sox Citizens" group. >>>To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>[email protected]. >>>For more options, visit this group at >>>http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>> >>-- >>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>"Red Sox Citizens" group. >>To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>[email protected]. >>For more options, visit this group at >>http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>"Red Sox Citizens" group. >>To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>[email protected]. >>For more options, visit this group at >>http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> -- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red >Sox Citizens" group. >To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >[email protected]. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en.
