What the first best possible outcome?
We're down a pitcher and all the money for 2012.

On Oct 25, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Tom Salemi wrote:

> No crushing from me. I actually think this was the second best possible 
> outcome.
> 
> On Oct 25, 2011 4:59 PM, "William Marino" <[email protected]> wrote:
> So I may get crushed here for defending the guy, but isn’t it likely that 
> he’s had this injury all year and tried to pitch through it?  Don’t get me 
> wrong—they guy is still a massive jerk—but maybe he should get a little 
> credit.  Also, according to Wikipedia, there is a 85-92% chance of a full 
> recovery.  Maybe the way to handle him is surgery/rehab and see what he can 
> do.  It takes about a year to fully recover.  Might not be the most prudent 
> thing to do to trade him, most likely eat a big portion of his salary (and 
> get nothing in return), then watch him revert back to his pre-injured form.
> 
>  
> 
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Larry Rupp
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:47 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Lackey - Tommy John!
> 
>  
> 
> I hope so because that helps with his value to the Sox to trade him for 
> 2013&2014.  This guy just keeps getting worse even not pitching...
> 
> Sent from Larry's mobile
> 
> 
> On Oct 25, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Wow! That's quite a contract clause. I guess they were concerned enough 
>> about his shoulder. I wonder if that's tradeable. I assume it would be.
>> 
>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Charles Battikha <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> So let the speculations begin... How long did he need it? Or is this an 
>> excuse?
>> 
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>> What's also amazing is the contract. Is that standard in contracts or was 
>> there already a concern? 
>> 
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>> 
>> Lackey’s contract has a clause that states if the pitcher misses time 
>> because of Tommy John surgery on his elbow, he has to give the Red Sox a 
>> sixth year at the league minimum salary.
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>> On Oct 25, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Matt & Olga McSorley wrote:
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>> Yup. He's out for next season.
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>> http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2011/10/john_lackey_to.html?p1=News_links
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>> From: Tom Salemi <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: Lackey - Tommy John!
>> 
>> what does this mean? He's having Tommy John?
>> 
>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Dan D
>> Central NJ USA
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