I"m not whining.  I'm just calling it like I see it.

I don't have a lot of faith in "this guy will come back" and "that guy will
come back" and "with a little luck" as reasons to expect success.


On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Steve Ouellette <[email protected]>wrote:

> Are they not close to a playoff run? They're 2 1/2 games behind the
> Orioles for a playoff spot, despite having easily the worst injury problems
> in the league thus far -- I will not run through them right now, unless you
> request it, but people have been clamoring for Aaron Cook and Scott
> Podsednik. Reinforcements are on the way, and some day Adrian Gonzalez will
> stop doing his Carlos Quintana impersonation. Stop your whining.
>
> Steve O
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Ray Daniel Salemi <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I argue that if they are not rebuilding then they are falling into the
>> trap that ensared the Yankees in the 80's.  You can't keep hoping against
>> hope that a team like the 2012 Red Sox will amount to anything. If you keep
>> telling yourself that you're close to a playoff run, then you don't make
>> the moves you need for the future.
>>
>> So I hope to see more trades around the deadline.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Not really rebuilding. If they were really doing that, they would have
>>> traded more vets by now for better young players, not
>>> 'bags of balls' like they apparently got for Youkilis (not that I
>>> disagree with that trade). But I have to say, I am looking forward to
>>> seeing Crawford - Ellsbury - Kalish in the outfield, with Middlebrooks -
>>> Iglesias - Pedroia - Gonzalez in the infield and Salty and Lavarnway
>>> doing the catching, with Papi as DH... I think that is where we will be
>>> later this year, if they fall out of contention, but definitely next year.
>>>
>>> Dan D
>>> Central NJ USA
>>>
>>>   ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Ray Daniel Salemi <[email protected]>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 5, 2012 9:56 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: Optimistically Speaking....
>>>
>>> I'm pretty certain that the Sox will continue to play this way until
>>> they've shed themselves of tens of millions of dollars of DL money.
>>>
>>> I see too much instability in the roster. Guys coming up, guys going
>>> down, guys being traded.  The Sox are in a rebuilding year, though no one
>>> is allowed to say it.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Given the state of the Sox right now (only 3 'experienced' Sox players
>>> in the line-up yesterday, down offensively but
>>> getting decent pitching and with the AS break almost upon us and "only"
>>> 7.5 games behind the Yankees with a 4-game
>>> set about to start), I am still feeling cautiously optimistic about the
>>> 2H of the year. Yeah, crazy, but I figure that they
>>> can't play much more inconsistently than they already have. And with the
>>> troops getting healthy - might we actually
>>> have our projected starting outfield of Crawford, Ellsbury and
>>> Ross/Sweeney after the break? - and assuming the
>>> pitching stays decent - especially the bullpen - I can see the team
>>> making some sort of run in the second half. Not
>>> blistering like last year, but perhaps enough to get them into the
>>> play-offs.
>>>
>>> Seems to me the main competition for the second WC will be among Tampa
>>> Bay/Cleveland/Baltimore/Detroit (assuming
>>> division winners NYY - CWS - Rangers and the Angels the other WC). With
>>> the addition assumption of good health in
>>> the second half, I don't see why the Sox couldn't be competitive with
>>> any of those teams.
>>>
>>> BTW, I will be going to Fenway during our annual sojourn to The Cape -
>>> but it will be to see Springsteen perform!
>>>
>>> Dan D
>>> Central NJ USA
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