Hi Gavin,

please find my comments below.

Il 02/03/2022 15:29, Gavin Brown ha scritto:
Hi Jim and Mario,

On 2 Mar 2022, at 13:01, Gould, James <jgo...@verisign.com> wrote:

Mario,
Thank you for sharing the draft. We implemented EPP/HTTPS in parallel with EPP/TLS a while back for many years. In the end, there were very few registrars that chose to use EPP/HTTPS, so it was shutdown. I’m not sure at this point whether there is hunger from the registrars to implement EPP/HTTPS.
At least one registrar (DNSimple) had a go at writing an EPP over HTTPS spec a 
few years ago, regrettably it didn't get very far (for which I am partly to 
blame):

https://github.com/aeden/epp-over-http

I provided my feedback about that proposal. My main concern was about the fact that every EPP command required the registrar to be previously authenticated. It appeared to me inefficient iin general and particularly when a massive amount of request are sent to the server in a very short time.

In addition, it didn't seem to me in line with the trend in REST services to allow for work sessions consequent to a user authentication phase (see rdap-openid ).


I think now is a good time to reassess the appetite for EPP over HTTPS. As we 
all move to the cloud, where almost everything uses HTTP as a substrate, it 
becomes harder to deploy protocols that aren't based on HTTP in a cloud-native 
way, both on the client side and the server side.

 From the security point of view, while EPP has a relatively small attack 
surface, if you're a registry, you're somewhat limited in terms of the 
third-party security services you can deploy to protect it. The same is true of 
whois, but at least we know that whois will one day be replaced by RDAP, which 
is HTTP based. I look forward to one day putting my entire infrastructure 
behind $YOUR_CLOUD_BASED_REVERSE_PROXY_OF_CHOICE - which necessitates retiring 
(or at least deprecating) ports 43 and 700.

Thanks a lot for the hint about deploying EPP on a cloud environment. Both the registries implementing the draft haven't considered this scenario.  I'll include it in section 2 ;-)


Best,

Mario



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