I might be able to code this up, but I would not be able to get to  
this for a month or so.

Doug


On Oct 24, 2007, at 9:24 AM, Sébastien Morin wrote:

> Hi again
>
> You're right. This could be quite useful especially for multi- 
> processor
> systems...
>
> Also, as you say, there could be other levels of queuing (that  
> people more
> familiar with this topic than me could propose)...
>
> Ciao
>
>
> Séb
>
>
>
> Selon Douglas Kojetin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 24.10.2007:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I think it would be worth adding the code, as a queueing system
>> within the full_analysis script could spawn multiple tensor
>> optimizations at the same time, depending on the number of processors
>> available on the computer (or cluster).  For example, it would first
>> run local_tm.  Then, on a 2 CPU system, spawn the sphere and prolate
>> runs.  When one of those finish, start the next run in the queue
>> (oblate).  Then when another run finishes, run the next (ellipsoid).
>> That is one level of queueing, but I'm sure this could also be used
>> to queue and run individual model optimizations within a tensor
>> optimization run.  For example, m1, m2 ... through m8 for the  sphere
>> tensor optimization.
>>
>> Doug
>>
>>
>> On Oct 24, 2007, at 8:48 AM, Sebastien Morin wrote:
>>
>>> Hi again
>>>
>>> This is exactly what I was thinking.
>>>
>>> However, there's a simple way to queue things like that out of
>>> relax (at least in Unix systems)... But, then, you need multiple
>>> scripts. Let's say you want to run every tensor in full_analysis.py
>>> one after the other... You could do something like :
>>>
>>> ( relax -t log_local_tm ./full_analysis_local_tm.py ; relax -t
>>> log_sphere ./full_analysis_sphere.py ; relax -t log_prolate ./
>>> full_analysis_prolate.py ; relax -t log_oblate ./
>>> full_analysis_oblate.py ; relax -t log_ellipsoid ./
>>> full_analysis_ellipsoid.py ; relax -t log_final ./
>>> full_analysis_final.py ) &
>>>
>>> This would produce different logs for the different diffusion
>>> tensor optimization and also be in the background... A run would
>>> start when the previous run would finish or crash.
>>>
>>> This ain't perfect but is it worth spending time to modify the code
>>> when a command line like this one can do the same thing ?
>>>
>>> Let me know what you think.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> Séb
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Douglas Kojetin wrote:
>>>> Perhaps it might be useful to build some sort of automatic
>>>> queueing routine into relax, or the full_analysis script
>>>> directly?  It could first run the local_tm run, then queue up and
>>>> run the other tensor runs.
>>>>
>>>> Doug
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 24, 2007, at 8:25 AM, Sebastien Morin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Doug
>>>>>
>>>>> This extreme looping should be added as an option in the
>>>>> full_analysis.py script. I'm not sure I would routinely use it as
>>>>> the computing time must be very long, but it could be useful some
>>>>> times...
>>>>>
>>>>> When the threading over multiple CPUs will be implemented, this
>>>>> option would also certainly be useful...
>>>>>
>>>>> I would suggest you submit a patch to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to add
>>>>> this feature as an option the user can activate or not depending
>>>>> on its needs...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers !
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Séb  :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Douglas Kojetin wrote:
>>>>>> I guess I could also mentione that I've 'hacked' the
>>>>>> full_analysis.py script to automatically loop through local_tm,
>>>>>> sphere, prolate, oblate and ellipsoid runs as well.  This,
>>>>>> however, produces one extremely large output file, so the
>>>>>> modifications mentioned below would be useful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doug
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 22, 2007, at 4:22 PM, Sebastien Morin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Doug !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Great !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't know about that feature (and some others that "relax -
>>>>>>> help" outputs)...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Séb  :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Douglas Kojetin wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Séb,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've been using the -t flag creating one large log, so I think
>>>>>>>> this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For analysis where some kind of looping is done (like here),
>>>>>>>>> the logs could be separated into different steps. For the
>>>>>>>>> full_analysis.py script, logging could be done independantly
>>>>>>>>> for each round and added to the other directories created...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> aic/  m0/  m1/  m2/  m3/  m4/  m5/  m6/  m7/  m8/  m9/  opt/
>>>>>>>>> log
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe, also, two versions of the log could created, one
>>>>>>>>> detailed and one only logging main topics so one can easily
>>>>>>>>> follow the processes. This could be interesting for people
>>>>>>>>> not familiar with the details of relax and of the approaches
>>>>>>>>> used for calculation/optimization...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> would be extremely useful.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Doug
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 22, 2007, at 4:15 PM, Sebastien Morin wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First of all, I think that the new feature for automatic
>>>>>>>>> looping is quite interesting..!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> However, I think that something could be done to make the
>>>>>>>>> analysis easier.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When one starts a relax run, text is sent to the standard
>>>>>>>>> output. I usually redirect this text to a log file so I can
>>>>>>>>> analyze if any trouble arises...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think that logging should be automatic.  This would not
>>>>>>>>> mean that standard output would be suppress, but rather that
>>>>>>>>> standard output would be, also, saved in a text file along
>>>>>>>>> with the results.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For analysis where some kind of looping is done (like here),
>>>>>>>>> the logs could be separated into different steps. For the
>>>>>>>>> full_analysis.py script, logging could be done independantly
>>>>>>>>> for each round and added to the other directories created...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> aic/  m0/  m1/  m2/  m3/  m4/  m5/  m6/  m7/  m8/  m9/  opt/
>>>>>>>>> log
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You may say that we can manually do that, but when using the
>>>>>>>>> automatic looping options, one would get a huge log...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe, also, two versions of the log could created, one
>>>>>>>>> detailed and one only logging main topics so one can easily
>>>>>>>>> follow the processes. This could be interesting for people
>>>>>>>>> not familiar with the details of relax and of the approaches
>>>>>>>>> used for calculation/optimization...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let me know what you think of this and also if I'm being
>>>>>>>>> clear or not...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Séb  :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>          ______________________________________
>>>>>>>      _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>     |                                               |
>>>>>>>    || Sebastien Morin                               ||
>>>>>>>   ||| Etudiant au PhD en biochimie                  |||
>>>>>>>  |||| Laboratoire de resonance magnetique nucleaire ||||
>>>>>>> ||||| Dr Stephane Gagne                             |||||
>>>>>>>  |||| CREFSIP (Universite Laval, Quebec, CANADA)    ||||
>>>>>>>   ||| 1-418-656-2131 #4530                          |||
>>>>>>>    ||                                               ||
>>>>>>>     |_______________________________________________|
>>>>>>>          ______________________________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>          ______________________________________
>>>>>      _______________________________________________
>>>>>     |                                               |
>>>>>    || Sebastien Morin                               ||
>>>>>   ||| Etudiant au PhD en biochimie                  |||
>>>>>  |||| Laboratoire de resonance magnetique nucleaire ||||
>>>>> ||||| Dr Stephane Gagne                             |||||
>>>>>  |||| CREFSIP (Universite Laval, Quebec, CANADA)    ||||
>>>>>   ||| 1-418-656-2131 #4530                          |||
>>>>>    ||                                               ||
>>>>>     |_______________________________________________|
>>>>>          ______________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>          ______________________________________
>>>      _______________________________________________
>>>     |                                               |
>>>    || Sebastien Morin                               ||
>>>   ||| Etudiant au PhD en biochimie                  |||
>>>  |||| Laboratoire de resonance magnetique nucleaire ||||
>>> ||||| Dr Stephane Gagne                             |||||
>>>  |||| CREFSIP (Universite Laval, Quebec, CANADA)    ||||
>>>   ||| 1-418-656-2131 #4530                          |||
>>>    ||                                               ||
>>>     |_______________________________________________|
>>>          ______________________________________
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------
> Sébastien Morin
> Étudiant M.Sc. Biochimie
> Laboratoire S. Gagné
> 3252 Pav. Marchand (Université Laval)
> Tél : (418) 656-2131 #4530
> Fax : (418) 656-7176
> e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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