Yeah, it's the relaxation of the 15N so the spin name should be 'N'.
It might give strange results having vectors of zero length ;)

Edward

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 2:38 AM, Tyler Reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe I need to use 'N' for the spin_name column because the extracted
> vector is
> H-H, which is very weird. It took 10 rounds for the 'prolate' script to
> converge:
>
> RelaxWarning: The XH bond vector for residue ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]' is of zero 
> length.
> Extracted H-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]'.
>
>
>
> Quoting Edward d'Auvergne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> Ok, one bug is because of the HETNUC variable.  It is set twice.  The
>> first should be renamed, but I'll worry about that later.  The real
>> reason is because you need to name the spins.  This can be done by
>> setting the spin_name column of the file containing the sequence to
>> the PDB atom name.  I will also modify the script to use the first
>> HETNUC value to set the spin name if not set by the sequence file.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Edward
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Tyler Reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, go ahead. Also, you closed the bug report so I can't actually
>>> attach
>>> the
>>> file to it. I'll try attaching the full_analysis.py script to this
>>> message..
>>> hopefully the mailing list allows that.
>>>
>>> Tyler
>>>
>>> Quoting Edward d'Auvergne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>
>>>> Right, got it and can reproduce the bug.  I think I know what the
>>>> issue is, but would you be able to attach the full_analysis.py script
>>>> to the bug report so I can confirm it?  Well, actually there are
>>>> probably two issues, the first being a problem with the full analysis
>>>> script not setting the spin names (hence it can't find the unnamed
>>>> atoms in the PDB file) and the second is that relax isn't catching
>>>> this.  Also, would it be ok if I added the truncated results.bz2 and
>>>> PDB_file_truncate_random.pdb files to the relax test suite?  This will
>>>> allow me to fix the second issue (for the first, the full_analysis.py
>>>> script needs checking).
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Edward
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Tyler Reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The aic results file should be attached to the bug report. It looks
>>>>> like
>>>>> it's
>>>>> there when I check it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Quoting Edward d'Auvergne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've tried the PDB file and it seems to be fine.  There are no strange
>>>>>> formatting issues there.  Therefore it is caused by the loaded
>>>>>> 'local_tm/aic/results.bz2' file which is somehow not matching the
>>>>>> loading of the PDB file.  Unfortunately I can't work out what is
>>>>>> causing the XH bond vectors from the PDB file to not be extracted.
>>>>>> This is what the loading of vectors should look like:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> relax> structure.vectors(attached='H', spin_id=None,
>>>>>> struct_index=None, verbosity=1, ave=True, unit=True)
>>>>>> Extracting vectors from the single structure.
>>>>>> Calculating the unit vectors.
>>>>>> The attached atom is a proton.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RelaxWarning: No attached atom could be found (atom ID ':[EMAIL 
>>>>>> PROTECTED]&@N').
>>>>>> RelaxWarning: No attached atom could be found (atom ID ':[EMAIL 
>>>>>> PROTECTED]&@N').
>>>>>> Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@N'.
>>>>>> Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@N'.
>>>>>> Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@N'.
>>>>>> Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@N'.
>>>>>> Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@N'.
>>>>>> Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@N'.
>>>>>> RelaxWarning: No attached atom could be found (atom ID ':[EMAIL 
>>>>>> PROTECTED]&@N').
>>>>>> RelaxWarning: No attached atom could be found (atom ID ':[EMAIL 
>>>>>> PROTECTED]&@N').
>>>>>> Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@N'.
>>>>>> Extracted N-H vectors for ':[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@N'.
>>>>>> RelaxWarning: Either the spin number or name must be set for the spin
>>>>>> ':13' to identify the corresponding atom in the structure.
>>>>>> RelaxWarning: Either the spin number or name must be set for the spin
>>>>>> ':14' to identify the corresponding atom in the structure.
>>>>>> RelaxWarning: Either the spin number or name must be set for the spin
>>>>>> ':15' to identify the corresponding atom in the structure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These are the messages from one of the system tests.  Note the
>>>>>> "Extracted N-H vectors for" lines which are missing from your
>>>>>> printout.  By using the following commands in relax:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pipe.create(pipe_name='ellipsoid', pipe_type='mf')
>>>>>> structure.read_pdb(file='PDB_file_truncate_random.pdb', dir=None,
>>>>>> model=None, parser='scientific')
>>>>>> structure.load_spins()
>>>>>> structure.vectors(attached='H', spin_id=None, struct_index=None,
>>>>>> verbosity=1, ave=True, unit=True)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I get the following print out from the last user function:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> relax> structure.vectors(attached='H', spin_id=None,
>>>>>> struct_index=None, verbosity=1, ave=True, unit=True)
>>>>>> Extracting vectors from the single structure.
>>>>>> Calculating the unit vectors.
>>>>>> The attached atom is a proton.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Extracted N-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@N'.
>>>>>> Extracted CA-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@CA'.
>>>>>> Extracted C-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@C'.
>>>>>> Extracted O-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@O'.
>>>>>> Extracted CB-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@CB'.
>>>>>> Extracted CG-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@CG'.
>>>>>> Extracted CD1-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@CD1'.
>>>>>> Extracted CD2-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@CD2'.
>>>>>> RelaxWarning: The XH bond vector for residue '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@H' 
>>>>>> is of
>>>>>> zero length.
>>>>>> Extracted H-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@H'.
>>>>>> Extracted HA-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@HA'.
>>>>>> Extracted HB2-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@HB2'.
>>>>>> Extracted HB3-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@HB3'.
>>>>>> Extracted HG-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@HG'.
>>>>>> Extracted HD11-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@HD11'.
>>>>>> Extracted HD12-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@HD12'.
>>>>>> Extracted HD13-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@HD13'.
>>>>>> Extracted HD21-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@HD21'.
>>>>>> Extracted HD22-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@HD22'.
>>>>>> Extracted HD23-H vectors for '#A:[EMAIL PROTECTED]&@HD23'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obviously some of these vectors are a bit strange, but this test shows
>>>>>> that there is no problem extracting them from your PDB file.
>>>>>> Therefore I think I'd need the loaded results file (truncated and
>>>>>> randomised if you wish) to be able to identify the problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Edward
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Tyler Reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Okay, I submitted the report. Let me know if there's more information
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>> or a better way to submit bug reports in general.. haven't done this
>>>>>>> before.
>>>>>>> Also, I had to manually copy/paste the output, and while it looks
>>>>>>> fine,
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>> there is a problem with the same pdb structure getting read twice or
>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>> that's probably just my pasting error from the unix terminal to the
>>>>>>> browser.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On that note, how can I fix this command:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> relax full_analysis.py > STDOUT.txt 2> STDERR.txt
>>>>>>> tcsh: Ambiguous output redirect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or better yet, can I merge all the output streams to a single text
>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> display the output in the terminal at the same time as well (maybe
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>> too ambitious there..)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, I do get the same output for 'ellipsoid' as well, as Seb asked.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yours,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tyler
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quoting Edward d'Auvergne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This issue looks like a problem with the loaded PDB structure.  The
>>>>>>>> 'local_tm' and 'sphere' optimisations do not utilise structural
>>>>>>>> information, but the 'oblate' and 'prolate' spheroids, and the
>>>>>>>> 'ellipsoid' all require this info.  Normally relax will catch this
>>>>>>>> problem and deselect the spins without XH bond vectors, but this
>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>> to be broken in the 1.3 versions hence you get the original cryptic
>>>>>>>> Python error.  As this is a real bug with the relax source code (and
>>>>>>>> not a yet-to-be converted feature or a sample script), would you be
>>>>>>>> able to submit a bug report for this issue?  The relax bug tracker
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> located at https://gna.org/bugs/?group=relax and the link at
>>>>>>>> https://gna.org/bugs/?func=additem&group=relax allows you to create
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> report.  That would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The bug report will be useful for having this error caught by the
>>>>>>>> relax test suite - if I can replicate the bug there then I can play
>>>>>>>> with the bug and fix it.  Note the the actual problem occurred
>>>>>>>> earlier
>>>>>>>> starting with the loading of the PDB file at the
>>>>>>>> structure.read_pdb()
>>>>>>>> user function.  So if you could include all print out from that user
>>>>>>>> function to the end of the traceback error message, that would be
>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>> useful.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Edward
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:17 AM, Tyler Reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Seb,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just tested 'oblate' and it produces the same error output.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tyler
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Quoting Sébastien Morin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tyler,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do you get the same error when trying the 'oblate' or 'ellipsoid'
>>>>>>>>>> diffusion tensors ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sébastien
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tyler Reddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm having an issue with the full_analysis.py script. It seems to
>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>> fine when
>>>>>>>>>>> DIFF_MODEL = 'local_tm' or 'sphere' (converges on 4th round) but
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> 'prolate'
>>>>>>>>>>> I get the following output:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Grid search
>>>>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Searching the grid.
>>>>>>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>>>>>>  File "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/relax", line 408, in
>>>>>>>>>>> <module>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Relax()
>>>>>>>>>>>  File "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/relax", line 125, in
>>>>>>>>>>> __init__
>>>>>>>>>>>  self.interpreter.run(self.script_file)
>>>>>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>>>>>> "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/prompt/interpreter.py",
>>>>>>>>>>> line 270, in
>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>  return run_script(intro=self.__intro_string, local=self.local,
>>>>>>>>>>> script_file=script_file, quit=self.__quit_flag,
>>>>>>>>>>> show_script=self.__show_script,
>>>>>>>>>>> raise_relax_error=self.__raise_relax_er
>>>>>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>>>>>> "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/prompt/interpreter.py",
>>>>>>>>>>> line 531, in
>>>>>>>>>>> run_script
>>>>>>>>>>>  return console.interact(intro, local, script_file, quit,
>>>>>>>>>>> show_script=show_script, raise_relax_error=raise_relax_error)
>>>>>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>>>>>> "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/prompt/interpreter.py",
>>>>>>>>>>> line 427, in
>>>>>>>>>>> interact_script
>>>>>>>>>>>  execfile(script_file, local)
>>>>>>>>>>>  File "full_analysis.py", line 673, in <module>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Main(self.relax)
>>>>>>>>>>>  File "full_analysis.py", line 284, in __init__
>>>>>>>>>>>  grid_search(inc=inc)
>>>>>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>>>>>> "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/prompt/minimisation.py",
>>>>>>>>>>> line 152,
>>>>>>>>>>> in grid_search
>>>>>>>>>>>  minimise.grid_search(lower=lower, upper=upper, inc=inc,
>>>>>>>>>>> constraints=constraints, verbosity=verbosity)
>>>>>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>>>>>> "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/generic_fns/minimise.py",
>>>>>>>>>>> line
>>>>>>>>>>> 185,
>>>>>>>>>>> in grid_search
>>>>>>>>>>>  grid_search(lower=lower, upper=upper, inc=inc,
>>>>>>>>>>> constraints=constraints,
>>>>>>>>>>> verbosity=verbosity)
>>>>>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/specific_fns/model_free/mf_minimise.py",
>>>>>>>>>>> line 479, in grid_search
>>>>>>>>>>>  self.minimise(min_algor='grid', lower=lower, upper=upper,
>>>>>>>>>>> inc=inc,
>>>>>>>>>>> constraints=constraints, verbosity=verbosity,
>>>>>>>>>>> sim_index=sim_index)
>>>>>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/specific_fns/model_free/mf_minimise.py",
>>>>>>>>>>> line 987, in minimise
>>>>>>>>>>>  results = generic_minimise(func=self.mf.func,
>>>>>>>>>>> dfunc=self.mf.dfunc,
>>>>>>>>>>> d2func=self.mf.d2func, args=(), x0=param_vector,
>>>>>>>>>>> min_algor=min_algor,
>>>>>>>>>>> min_options=min_options, func_tol=func_tol, g
>>>>>>>>>>> l, maxiter=max_iterations, A=A, b=b, full_output=1,
>>>>>>>>>>> print_flag=verbosity)
>>>>>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/minfx/generic.py",
>>>>>>>>>>> line 319, in generic_minimise
>>>>>>>>>>>  xk, fk, k = grid(func=func, args=args, grid_ops=min_options,
>>>>>>>>>>> A=A, b=b, l=l,
>>>>>>>>>>> u=u, c=c, print_flag=print_flag)
>>>>>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/minfx/grid.py",
>>>>>>>>>>> line 129, in grid
>>>>>>>>>>>  f = func(*(params,)+args)
>>>>>>>>>>>  File "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/maths_fns/mf.py", line
>>>>>>>>>>> 506,
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> func_diff
>>>>>>>>>>>  self.diff_data.calc_di(data, self.diff_data)
>>>>>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/maths_fns/direction_cosine.py",
>>>>>>>>>>> line
>>>>>>>>>>> 64, in calc_spheroid_di
>>>>>>>>>>>  data.dz = dot(data.xh_unit_vector, diff_data.dpar)
>>>>>>>>>>> TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for *: 'NoneType' and
>>>>>>>>>>> 'float'
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Quoting Edward d'Auvergne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For the bug you mention, I've fixed this and the changes are in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> repository.  There were a few other issues to do with subsequent
>>>>>>>>>>>> LaTeX
>>>>>>>>>>>> compilation and these have been fixed too.  You can see the new
>>>>>>>>>>>> sample
>>>>>>>>>>>> script at:  http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/relax/1.3/sample_scripts/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Edward
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 3:44 AM, Tyler Reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) I changed that line and I'm still having a bit of trouble
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (see
>>>>>>>>>>>>> output
>>>>>>>>>>>>> below).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) The errors that I'm using are described as 'the standard
>>>>>>>>>>>>> error
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>>>>>>> parameter... [which] is an easy calculation from the covariance
>>>>>>>>>>>>> matrix.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paraphrasing from the author there--I'm guessing this isn't the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> optimal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> input?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) I'm not sure it's explicitly stated in the manual, but I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> proceeding on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption that you run the multi-model script first and then
>>>>>>>>>>>>> modsel
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the right model for each given residue. A few weeks ago I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> experimenting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with this and if I didn't leave the global correlation time as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> computation seemed to take a VERY long time (unclear if it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever going to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> finish).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, as a side note, since my peptide is actually in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> micelle,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure if
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's anything extra I can do for diffusion tensor and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> correlation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>> type
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff. I know some programs (i.e. the Mathematica notebooks by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spyracopoulos) read in PDB files for diffusion tensor
>>>>>>>>>>>>> calculations,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> suspect it's a bit of a mess when the system is more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> complicated
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure in the PDB file would suggest.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Output:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Latex()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> relax> pipe.create(pipe_name='results', pipe_type='mf')
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> relax> results.read(file='results', dir=None)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Opening the file 'results' for reading.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  File "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/relax", line 408, in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <module>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Relax()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  File "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/relax", line 125, in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> __init__
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  self.interpreter.run(self.script_file)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/prompt/interpreter.py",
>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 270,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  return run_script(intro=self.__intro_string, local=self.local,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> script_file=script_file, quit=self.__quit_flag,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> show_script=self.__show_script,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> raise_relax_error=self.__raise_relax_error)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/prompt/interpreter.py",
>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 531,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> run_script
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  return console.interact(intro, local, script_file, quit,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> show_script=show_script, raise_relax_error=raise_relax_error)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/prompt/interpreter.py",
>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 427,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> interact_script
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  execfile(script_file, local)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  File "latex_mf_table.py", line 220, in <module>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Latex()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  File "latex_mf_table.py", line 68, in __init__
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  self.table_body()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  File "latex_mf_table.py", line 186, in table_body
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  self.file.write("%9.3f & %9.3f & " % (spin.s2, spin.s2_err))
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AttributeError: 'SpinContainer' object has no attribute
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 's2_err'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quoting Edward d'Auvergne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using a new system test, I found one more bug in the script.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been fixed in the 1.3 repository line.  If you haven't used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subversion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to check out (and update) the 1.3 line, then you can see the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required in my commit at:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-commits/2008-10/msg00402.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just change the line starting with '-' to the line starting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> '+'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, it may take a few minutes for the link to be generated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Edward
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Edward d'Auvergne
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a bug in the sample script.  Try adding a ':'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> character
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end of line 171 in your script.  I've fixed this in the 1.3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line and will try to add a system test to the program to try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> catch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any bugs before you do ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Edward
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Tyler Reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been trying to use the latex python script on the aic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> results file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the syntax error below. Not sure if I'm doing something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a small problem with that line of code:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Latex()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  File "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/relax", line 408,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <module>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Relax()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  File "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/relax", line 125,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> __init__
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  self.interpreter.run(self.script_file)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/prompt/interpreter.py",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 270, in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  return run_script(intro=self.__intro_string,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> local=self.local,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> script_file=script_file, quit=self.__quit_flag,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show_script=self.__show_script,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raise_relax_error=self.__raise_relax_error)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/prompt/interpreter.py",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 531, in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run_script
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  return console.interact(intro, local, script_file, quit,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show_script=show_script,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raise_relax_error=raise_relax_error)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "/Applications/relax-1.3.1/relax-1.3/prompt/interpreter.py",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 427, in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interact_script
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  execfile(script_file, local)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  File "latex_mf_table.py", line 171
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  for spin, spin_id in spin_loop(return_id=True)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quoting Edward d'Auvergne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Tyler Reddy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been using the multi model and model selection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relax 1.3.2 but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have trouble displaying the output in a tabulated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> format.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts seem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to produce an xml document with various headers that isn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looks like format='columnar' isn't supported. I wonder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> options I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to look at this data? For some reason, I don't recall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a Linux machine a few weeks ago (using a Mac OS 10.4 at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moment), but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyways it would be nice to get readable model-free
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The results file is now in XML format and the more readable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'columnar'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> format has been removed from the 1.3 line.  With the change
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XML results file all the contents of a data pipe,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> irrespective of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that data is, is packaged.  So you can put data into this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pipe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself and it will save that information (for advanced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complex python objects will need the to_xml() and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from_xml()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> methods
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to package and unpackage the data).  The reason for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'columnar' format was that it was considered too inflexible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes occuring in the 1.3 line, it contained duplicate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had numerical precision issues, and there were alternatives
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easily
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view this data.  You can use the value.display() and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value.write()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user functions to display and save the results for a single
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parameter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If needed, these user functions could be extended to accept
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parameters.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then there is the sample_scripts/latex_mf_table.py sample
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> script
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will generate a LaTeX table of the model-free results.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be copied and modified - this requires learning a bit of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> python -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> format and display the results any way you wish.  And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> finally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone really wants to, and has the skills to, they can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modify
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sample script to recreate a version of the 'columnar'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> format.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could be added to the relax sample scripts, and if their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> skills
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very advanced, then much code from the 1.2 relax versions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recycled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The error input for the relaxation rate parameters is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-linear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> curve fitting standard deviation. I'm not sure if that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subsequent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> analysis will be completely incorrect? I guess it depends
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comparison of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> magnitude between these errors and the type of error that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> propagated by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relax during its own curve-fitting (which I am unable to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moment).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm guessing this is the sum of squared error value (SSE)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fit.  Or is it a regression coefficient or a chi-squared
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fitting use a technique such as bootstrapping or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jackknife
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simulations to estimate the parameter errors via
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> propagation?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it use the covariance matrix?  If it is the SSE,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chi-squared,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regression coefficient then that value cannot be used.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wildly wrong and cause massive failure in model selection.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause big problems in optimisation, and if you are unlucky
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spaces with long, curved valleys or flat curved spaces
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leading to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum (that's model-free models m5 to m8 in most cases
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uncommon in model m4) then the minimum can be squeezed and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another completely different region in the space.  It will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause model failure issues, which although removed by the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eliminate()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user function, might discount the best solution.  I would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guess
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all of this will have a measurable affect on the final
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diffusion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tensor as well and, if so, this will cause the appearance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> artificial motions (my 2007 JBNMR paper at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://dx.doi.org/10.1039/b702202f explains these problems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detail).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If one is not careful with the errors and they are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> significantly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then the result is that the results may not be real.  So I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use the error if it comes from an established error
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> propagation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technique (i.e. from data to parameter error propagation).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Edward
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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