Thanks. As I suspected, we define discrimination differently. I believe that discrimination occurs when someone employs an illicit characteristic to modify his or her behavior in any way, including being uncooperative.
----- Original Message ----- From: "A.E. Brownstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Law & Religion issues for Law Academics" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:26 PM Subject: Re: FYI An Interesting Case > "What is between "valuing other people's lifestyles" and not > "discriminat[ing] against them" because they are gay?" > > Putting aside one's feelings about a person's sexual orientation or > specific religious beliefs and cooperating fully with the individual to > achieve collective goals. I do that all the time with religious liberty > issues. I often work cooperatively and effectively with, and for, people > whose religious beliefs I do not subscribe to and who hold some beliefs I > do not value (indeed, with which I strongly disagree). > > I suppose one can argue that anything short of such a cooperative > commitment is discrimination and harassment. Under that definition, the > continuum I describe would not exist. I don't think we typically use the > terms discrimination and harassment that way. At least I don't. I think > there is a more neutral base line. Participating as team mates in a team > effort (think of a sports team) means more to me than agreeing not to > discriminate against or harass other team members. But it doesn't mean that > I have to value what other team members do when the game is over. > > Alan Brownstein > UC Davis > > > > At 12:37 PM 4/8/2004 -0400, you wrote: > >Please describe that continuum. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "A.E. Brownstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Law & Religion issues for Law Academics" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:37 PM > >Subject: Re: FYI An Interesting Case > > > > > > > Yes. That's why the decision challenging ATT's pledge was correct -- but > > > that does not mean that companies are limited to prohibiting harassment > >and > > > discrimination. There is some distance on the continuum of workplace rules > > > between valuing other people's lifestyles and agreeing not to discriminate > > > against them or to harass them. > > > > > > Alan Brownstein > > > UC Davis > > > > > > > > > At 09:32 PM 4/7/2004 -0400, you wrote: > > > >The ATT pledge did not require that people be able to work together. It > > > >required that they announce that they value each others' lifestyle-and it > > > >is hard to see why a company has an interest in its employees moral > >views. > > > >If this pledge were enforced evenhandedly, would it not require gays to > > > >value the lifestyle and values of religious opponents of a "gay > > > >lifestyle." I bet is it not so understood. The company's reaction about > > > >diversity suggests that the company does not understand the pledge to > > > >apply equally to all religious views-itself a possible violation of Title > >VII. > > > >Marc Stern > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >To post, send message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see > > > >http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To post, send message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see > >http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >To post, send message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see > >http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw > > _______________________________________________ > To post, send message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw > _______________________________________________ To post, send message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw
