Eugene: I do not think there is a "witness" limitation for a Bet Din. Only observant Jewish men can serve on an orthodox bet din -- a reform or conservative bet din is more flexible
************************************************* Paul Finkelman, Ph.D. President William McKinley Distinguished Professor of Law Albany Law School 80 New Scotland Avenue Albany, NY 12208 518-445-3386 (p) 518-445-3363 (f) paul.finkel...@albanylaw.edu www.paulfinkelman.com ************************************************* ________________________________________ From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene [vol...@law.ucla.edu] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:22 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Religious arbitration I'm not sure whether 42 USC 1981 would apply to arbitral tribunals' decisions about which witnesses to consider; but if it does, I wonder how it would apply to Beth Dins. As I understand it, certain kinds of witnesses before those tribunals must be adult, male, Sabbath observing Jews. That is an age, sex, and religion classification, but also, I take it, an ethnic classification: A Sabbath-observing child of a Jewish mother would qualify, but a Sabbath-observing child of a non-Jewish mother would not qualify, unless he had converted in a way that the tribunal accepts -- and this is so even if the actual religious beliefs of the two people were identical. And as I understand it "race" in 42 USC 1981 & 1982 has been interpreted (consistently with late 1800s practice) to include ethnicity. Eugene Michael Masinter writes: > The question seems as likely to arise when one party to the agreement > seeks a judicial rather than an arbitral forum, the other party moves > to compel arbitration, and the suing party opposes enforcement of the > arbitration clause on the ground that the arbitral procedure, as > structured, is unconscionable or otherwise unenforceable. See the > briefs and argument in AT&T Mobility, LLC v. Concepcion, recently > argued in SCOTUS for a discussion of whether courts may on > unconscionability grounds refuse to enforce arbitration agreements. > http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/att-mobility-v-concepcion/ > > I think the more interesting question is whether a court must decline > to enforce the agreement, since the answer would seem to have a great > deal to do with the state action doctrine in its application to the > equal protection rights of excluded witnesses. Were the witness > exclusion racially based, 42 USC 1981 (a) likely would make it > judicially unenforceable without regard to the resolution of the state > action question, but although race is broadly construed under section > 1981, its provisions have never been construed to reach sex > discrimination. _______________________________________________ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others. _______________________________________________ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.