I don't know enough about employment discrimination law to discuss whether 
there is any case law to support my analysis (certainly Michael is far more 
knowledgeable in this area of law than I am). But as a normative manner, I 
would argue that a work requirement that in essence tells employees to publicly 
disclaim their faith discriminates on the basis of religion. The uniform 
requirements I mentioned in my last post would fit that description.  If we 
were discussing race discrimination, I would probably argue that requiring all 
employees to wear uniforms that state "No African-Americans work here," or "I 
am not an African-American" would also be discriminatory. Since there is no 
duty to accommodate with regard to race, I assume those who disagree would have 
to argue that these requirements do not constitute race discrimination. I find 
that conclusion troubling.

As for the other questions, requiring an employee to drive a truck with a sign 
on it that is generally understood to communicate the employer's religious 
message might invoke a duty to accommodate -- but I would anticipate that the 
accommodation would result in a change in the employee's duties -- not the 
covering of the sign. If an employee works for a company that produces or 
distributes products to be used for religious rituals, wine for Passover, 
candles for religious services , and other products -- most requests for 
accommodation will constitute an undue hardship on the employer.

Alan 

-----Original Message-----
From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu 
[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 11:19 AM
To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics
Subject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down 
religioussymbols

        I appreciate Michael's thoughtful and detailed response.  But it sounds 
like his approach, then, is different from Alan's, since Alan apparently would 
treat some such cases as disparate treatment cases (yes?).  If so, Alan, what 
would you think about the Las Cruces, Mogen David, or "There Is No God" on 
uniforms, cars, burger wrappers, and so on?

        Eugene

> -----Original Message-----
> From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw- 
> boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Masinter
> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 11:12 AM
> To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu
> Subject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down 
> religioussymbols
> 
> As always, Eugene asks good questions.
> 
> Religious discrimination claims can take several forms -- disparate 
> treatment,  failure to accommodate, and in addition harassment and 
> disparate impact.
> 
> I am not familiar with any case that treats an employer's mandated 
> expression of religious (dis)belief as disparate treatment since such 
> a rule, uniformly applied to all similarly situated employees, would 
> be disparate treatment only if it were adopted for the purpose of 
> discouraging employees or applicants of a particular faith from 
> applying or continuing to work.  So I would expect any claim relating 
> to compelled expression to arise as a reasonable accommodation claim.
> I suppose compelled expression could be part of a religious harassment 
> claim, but religious harassment claims are rare given the high burden 
> (severe or pervasive) that claimants face.  Facing that higher burden, 
> a sensible employee or her lawyer would surely prefer a reasonable 
> accommodation claim.  Disparate impact claims raise even more 
> difficult issues respecting classwide impact and preclude recovery of 
> damages, so I wouldn't expect to see one of those either.
> 
> My sense is that neither the Las Cruces employee nor the Mogen David 
> employee is entitled to an accommodation relating to vehicles or 
> stationery.  The city seal and Mogen David emblem identify the 
> employer; since no reasonable observer would see them as the compelled 
> expression of belief, I'd expect a court to hold that requiring the 
> employer to forego their use at the request of a religious believer 
> would impose an undue hardship on the conduct of the employer's 
> business.
> 
> It's worth noting that section 702(a) of Title VII exempts religious 
> corporations, associations, and societies from the prohibition against 
> religious discrimination, and therefore from any duty of religious 
> accommodation.  Although courts have struggled to work out a standard 
> for identifying employers entitled to the religious corporation 
> exemption that is both faithful to the intent of its drafters and 
> consistent with the establishment clause, all of the competing 
> standards impose a de facto requirement that the employer be organized 
> as a not for profit business even while insisting that the form of the 
> organization is only part of the analysis.  Townley Engineering lost 
> on its claim to a religious corporation exemption for precisely that 
> reason.
> 
> Mike
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> Quoting "Volokh, Eugene" <vol...@law.ucla.edu>:
> 
> >     Michael:  How religious does the statement have to be before 
> > requiring it becomes religious discrimination (which is per se 
> > forbidden, unless religion is treated as a BFOQ, a high bar) as 
> > opposed to absence of religious accommodation (which may be 
> > permissible, if an accommodation is an undue hardship)?
> >
> >     Say, for instance, that someone who drives around in Las Cruces, 
> > N.M., city cars insists on taping over the city seal (which is 
> > mainly three crosses), or insists on crossing out the crosses on any  
> > city stationery that he uses.  Should he be allowed to do that?
> > What if he does delivery for Mogen David Wine Corporation (which I 
> > take it doesn't qualify for the religious entity exemption under 
> > Title VII), and wants to tape over the Mogen David itself on the 
> > trucks?  The list could go on.
> >
> >     Eugene
> >
> >> 
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