Perhaps a comparison to the interpretation of "minister of the gospel" in Internal Revenue Code section 107, which provides a gross income exclusion for the rental value of housing provided to ministers of the gospel (the "parsonage exclusion") is helpful. Perhaps it raises more questions. Perhaps it is or is not (or will turn out to be or not to be) coterminous with the definition for other purposes. It is relevant to Alan's question in the sense that a gross income exclusion (like a tax deduction or credit) is equivalent in many ways to funding.
>From my BNA Tax Management, Inc., Gross Income: Overview and Conceptual >Aspects, two paragraphs (without footnotes) addressing the scope of the >exclusion in terms of who qualifies: "Although the language of §107 refers to ministers of the gospel, the exclusion applies to persons who are ordained, commissioned, or licensed to perform substantially all the religious functions within the practice of the denomination. Thus, the exclusion is available for rabbis and cantors of the Jewish faith, ordained deacons, ordained gospel ministers who administer sacraments, preach, and conduct worship services, and unordained but commissioned or licensed members of a religious denomination who perform substantially all of the religious functions within the practice of the denomination. But the exclusion is not available to unordained, uncommissioned and unlicensed persons who perform nonreligious services for a church. The §107 exclusion also applies to retired ministers of the gospel. Payments to surviving spouses, however, are not covered by the exclusion. Also not covered are payments to employees of religious organizations who are not ordained, commissioned, or licensed ministers and who do not perform any religious functions. No exclusion is available to a taxpayer whose duties as a religious functionary did not require performance by a person with ministerial authority and that were more organizational than religious in nature." Jim Maule -----Original Message----- From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Brownstein Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 1:01 AM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Supreme Court sides with church on decision to fire employee on religious grounds Tom, I have long since given up trying to predict how Supreme Court justices will decide future cases (or to assume that there will be logical consistency or even intellectual integrity in all opinions.) But Justice Roberts clearly and repeatedly emphasizes the title, status, and acknowledged role of minister or clergy as significant factors in reaching his decision in this case. Why are you so confident that all of this language in the opinion is superflous? I agree that Alito and Kagan's concurrence provides more support for including some lay teachers in the exception. But even they say "What matters is that respondent played an important role as an instrument of her church's religious message and as a leader of its worship activities." The words "important role" and "a leader" arguably mean something different than "some role" and "a participant." Finally, of course, there is the question of how the understanding of who qualifies for the ministerial exception relates to the question of what positions the government can fund in religious institutions. Can the government fund the salary of teachers who play an important role as an instrument of their church's religious message and as a leader in its worship activities? If the answer to that question is "Yes" and it is also true that such teachers are enough like clergy in their religious functions to be included in the ministerial exception, would it follow that government can also fund the salary of clergy? Is it constitutionally permissible for the government to refuse to fund teaching positions at a religious school which refuses to hire African-Americans, women, and the disabled as teachers? Alan ________________________________________ From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] on behalf of Berg, Thomas C. [tcb...@stthomas.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 7:47 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Supreme Court sides with church on decision to fire employee on religious grounds Alan, I agree that the majority leaves open the issue of lay teachers. But since three justices take a broader approach to defining a minister, all you need for a majority in a later case is two more votes, and Roberts and Scalia seem reasonable prospects to me in a case that presents the issue. Thomas would defer heavily to the religious organization's characterization of an employee as a minister. And Alito and Kagan say that ordained or "commissioned" status isn't crucial, that the criterion is "positions of substantial religious importance"-including those "teaching and conveying the tenets of the faith to the next generation"--and that "the constitutional protection of religious teachers is not somehow diminished when they take on secular functions in addition to their religious ones. What matters is that respondent played an important role as an instrument of her church's religious message and as a leader of its worship activities." I can see many lay teachers in seriously religious schools satisfying such a test. Kagan's agreement with that standard is quite significant, as is her joining the Alito concurrence overall. 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