This strikes me as simply another example of the willingness of courts to 
undermine public education and educational standards, while at the same 
undermining any separation of Church and State.  The Zorach concept was to 
allow release time, which was bad enough.  When I was in school we basically 
did nothing every Wed. afternoon because all the Catholic kids left for "church 
school."  I was one of two Jewish kids in my school and there were two Greek 
Orthodox kids.  We went to Hebrew school twice a week after the school day, not 
on release time; the Orthodox kids went to Greek school in the same way.  We 
could never figure out why that system worked that way.  I still can't.  As a 
policy matter, this is not "welcoming" to use Rick's concept, but quite the 
opposite.  It separates school children out, it undermines the education of 
everyone, and leaves  less time in the school day for general education.  These 
issues remind me of President Kennedy's press conference response to the school 
prayer decision.  Asked about the decision (which came down the day of one of 
his scheduled press conferences), he simply said that  parents should pray at 
home with their children before they leave for school.  Similarly, religious 
education ought to be on the non-school time.

Giving credit for religious education outside of school makes no pedagogic 
sense at all.  And it should raise all sorts of entanglement questions, since 
the school board ought to be examining the credentials of the teachers, the 
texts, the pedagogy.  Does anyone really want that in their religious education?

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[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Marty Lederman
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To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics
Subject: Providing public school credits for release-time religious classes

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A South Carolina school district set up a Zorach-like release time program for 
religious instruction at an unaccedited religious school.  Then it decided to 
give the participating students academic credit for their purely religious 
studies in the release-time program.  The Fourth Circuit upholds this program, 
on the theory that it's no different from recognizing credits from a private, 
accredited religious school when a student transfers to the public school.  But 
in that latter case (or in the related context of giving "credit" for 
home-schooling), the credits presumably are awarded based upon the showing or 
the presumption that they reflect the student's completion of the necessary 
secular curriculum.  Here, the education in question is specifically religious 
in nature (that's the point, and there's no indication in the opinion of any 
secular content).  That is to say, the credit is being offered for the 
religious education simplicitur.

Is this holding defensible?  On Mirror of Justice, Rick Garnett calls it 
"welcome," but it's not obvious to me why that might be so.
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