It is always good to read things before commenting on them. The court
ruling was indeed in a Muslim case.
In Germany there is a law protecting animals ("Tierschutzgesetz") but
there is an exception for Halal slaughtering. "Religious freedom" is a
fundamental right under the German constitution (Art. 4 Grundgesetz). It
would perhaps be wise to read the German constitution and the relevant
laws before speculating about "German history" and courts that are biassed
and "attack religious minorites". I am a bit disappointed about the level
of this debate. In the end we are talking about a liberal democracy,
aren't we?
Manfred BrockerOn Sun, July 1, 2012 6:30 pm, Paul Finkelman wrote: > I posted this before I had a chance to read the decision, which I now see > is about a Muslim case; that undermines some of my arguments, but not all > of them. The politics may be less about Jews than Muslims but the issue > remains the same -- a fundamental attack on religious minorities. I > wonder, for example, whether the next step will be a ban on Kosher or > Halal slaughtering on the grounds that it is "cruel" to animals? The case > does not seem to be based on the place of the circumcision. That is one > could imagine a law that requires it to be done in a hospital. But this > does not appear to be the issue here. > >  > ---- > Paul Finkelman > President William McKinley Distinguished Professor of Law > Albany Law School > 80 New Scotland Avenue > Albany, NY 12208 > > > 518-445-3386 (p) > 518-445-3363 (f) > > > paul.finkel...@albanylaw.edu > > > www.paulfinkelman.com > > > ________________________________ > From: Paul Finkelman <paul.finkel...@yahoo.com> > To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics <religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu> > Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 12:21 PM > Subject: Re: German circumcision decision > > > Are they also banning parents from piercing the ears of children? In many > cultures it is common to see infant girls with pierced ears.  Does the > ban extend to pierced ears before age 18? And then there is body > piercing before age 18. Is that being banned? Has the Court banned > tattoos for people under 18? > > And has this ban spread to Muslim male children, who are circumcised at > age 7, 10 or slightly later depending on the sect. > > > The fact is, given Germany's history of how it has dealt with Jews, is is > not illegitimate to wonder what the Court is thinking.  Germany has one > of the fastest growing Jewish populations in the world -- mostly through > immigration. This decision, if enforced all over the country, would slow > down or stop that population growth. One might at least ponder why this > case has come to the Germany court, and not one involving piercing, > tattoos, or Muslim circumcision. > >  > ---- > Paul Finkelman > President William McKinley Distinguished Professor of Law > Albany Law School > 80 New Scotland Avenue > Albany, NY 12208 > > > 518-445-3386 (p) > 518-445-3363 (f) > > > paul.finkel...@albanylaw.edu > > > www.paulfinkelman.com > > > ________________________________ > From: "Volokh, Eugene" <vol...@law.ucla.edu> > To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics <religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu> > Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 11:56 AM > Subject: RE: German circumcision decision > > >                Any chance we could have some helpful > analysis of the decision, rather than one-liners? The question of the > degree to which parents should be able to permanently alter their > childrenâs bodies â for religious reasons or otherwise â is not, it > seems to me, one that has a completely obvious answer one way or the > other. There may indeed be one correct answer that can be demonstrated, > but such demonstration requires argument rather than assertion. >  >                Eugene > _______________________________________________ > To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see > http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw > > Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as > private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are > posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or > wrongly) forward the messages to others. > > > _______________________________________________ > To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see > http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw > > Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as > private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are > posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or > wrongly) forward the messages to > others._______________________________________________ > To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see > http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw > > Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as > private. 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