1.  It seems to me that the right question for 
Sherbert/Yoder-model purposes is whether there’s an “equal burden on [the 
applicants’] religious exercise” – rather, it’s whether there’s a substantial 
burden.  Perhaps the high school graduate in the hypothetical below is less 
burdened than the 55-year-old.  But I would think both are still substantially 
burdened.  (I set aside here whether the hypothetical mandate may violate the 
Free Speech Clause.)  Among other things, if the goal of religious exemption 
regimes is to let people of all faiths participate as much as possible in 
social life, including business life (unless, of course, that participation 
necessarily undermines compelling government interests), I think that 
requirements that keep new entrants of certain religions out of various lines 
of business are substantial burdens.

               2.  Imagine a state requires all convenience stores to sell 
lottery tickets.  Three people all believe it would be wrong for them to sell 
lottery tickets, since that would involve them in gambling, which they believe 
is sinful (I believe United Methodists, some Mormons, and some Muslims have 
religious objections to gambling).  All claim an exemption from the state 
requirement under a Sherbert/Yoder regime.

               a.  Ahmed has run his store for 30 years; the state has just 
passed a law requirement convenience stores to sell lottery tickets.

               b.  Betty has just bought the store, unaware of the lottery 
ticket sale requirement, which has existed for a while.  The state has stepped 
up enforcement, and she now wants an exemption.

               c.  Charles has run his store for 30 years, and has sold lottery 
tickets.  He has recently had a religious experience, and has become a member 
of the United Methodist Church; he now believes it would be sinful for him to 
sell lottery tickets, and he wants an exemption from the law.

               Which of these three applicants can claim that his religious 
beliefs are substantially burdened by the lottery ticket sale requirement, so 
that the government would have to grant the exemption (assuming the state 
follows a Sherbert/Yoder regime) unless it can show that denying the exemption 
is necessary to serve a compelling government interest?  I would think that all 
three are substantially burdened, whether or not you think one of them is more 
burdened than others.  Am I mistaken?

               Eugene


From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu 
[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Marty Lederman
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 9:25 AM
To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics
Subject: Re: Colorado Cakeshop decision

The burden on religious exercise if you have to give up your business might be 
quite substantial, especially if means choosing between your religion and 
sacrificing many years of work, costs, good will, self-fulfillment, etc.  But 
not if "giving it up" means "not starting down that path in the first place 
because you're not willing to abide by the common-carrier rules required of 
such businesses."  (Denial of unemployment benefits, likewise, imposes a much 
greater burden on poor persons than on the wealthy.)

For example:

Let's take two people who both really want to teach 10th grade biology.  And 
they both have the same religious belief that it would be sinful for them to 
teach Darwinian evolution.  State X passes a law requiring all schools (public 
and private) to teach Darwinian evolution in 10th Grade.

One difference between the two wannabe teachers:  One of them is 55 years old, 
and has been teaching 10th Grade Bio in a religious school for over 30 years, 
from an evolutionist perspective, without speaking a word of Darwin.  It's the 
only job she's ever had, and her family depends upon her income.  The other is 
a recent high-school graduate who had planned to study for an education degree 
so as to be able to fulfill his dream of teaching creationism to 10th Graders.

Neither of them can henceforth teach 10th Grade without violating their 
religious precepts (or moving to a different state).  Equal burden on their 
religious exercise?  I think not.  Not even close.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Volokh, Eugene 
<vol...@law.ucla.edu<mailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu>> wrote:
               I appreciate Marty’s argument, but I’m not sure it quite works.  
The burden of giving up your business (if you want to avoid violating your 
religious beliefs) strikes me as quite substantial, just as is the burden of 
giving up your unemployment compensation (if you want to avoid violating your 
religious beliefs).  And I don’t think the fact that “you knew the job was 
dangerous when you took it” changes that analysis, see Hobbie v. Unemployment 
Appeals Comm’n:

The Appeals Commission also attempts to distinguish this case by arguing that, 
unlike the employees in Sherbert and Thomas, Hobbie was the "agent of change" 
and is therefore responsible for the consequences of the conflict between her 
job and her religious beliefs. In Sherbert and Thomas, the employees held their 
respective religious beliefs at the time of hire; subsequent changes in the 
conditions of employment made by the employer caused the conflict between work 
and belief. In this case, Hobbie's beliefs changed during the course of her 
employment, creating a conflict between job and faith that had not previously 
existed. The Appeals Commission contends that "it is . . . unfair for an 
employee to adopt religious beliefs that conflict with existing employment and 
expect to continue the employment without compromising those beliefs" and that 
this "intentional disregard of the employer's interests . . . constitutes 
misconduct." Brief for Appellee Appeals Commission 20-21.

In effect, the Appeals Commission asks us to single out the religious convert 
for different, less favorable treatment than that given an individual whose 
adherence to his or her faith precedes employment. We decline to do so. The 
First Amendment protects the free exercise rights of employees who adopt 
religious beliefs or convert from one faith to another after they are hired. 
The timing of Hobbie's conversion is immaterial to our determination that her 
free exercise rights have been burdened; the salient inquiry under the Free 
Exercise Clause is the burden involved. In Sherbert, Thomas, and the present 
case, the employee was forced to choose between fidelity to religious belief 
and continued employment; the forfeiture of unemployment benefits for choosing 
the former over the latter brings unlawful coercion to bear on the employee's 
choice.

(By the way, I’m not sure on these facts whether the Colorado cake shop went 
into business before or after Colorado banned sexual orientation discrimination 
in public accommodations, but I’m happy to set that aside for purposes of the 
broader discussion.)

               Eugene

Marty Lederman writes:

Or to put Paul's point in a slightly different, more doctrinal light -- and one 
that harkens back to our landlord discussions circa 1998 [you can look it up!] 
-- if we're in a RFRA jurisdiction, there is far less of a "substantial burden" 
on one's religious exercise if the government "sanction" is merely "if you're 
not willing to serve everyone, then you can't be a common carrier" than if the 
government actually makes it unlawful for you to do what your religion requires 
(e.g., O Centro, Yoder).

Of course, the burden is higher on those who developed a reliance interest on 
their being able to discriminate -- e.g., those who paid huge costs in terms of 
time and money in learning a profession, and building a business, at a time 
when the business was not viewed as a common carrier, or where (in this case) a 
prohibition on sexual-orientation discrimination was not foreseeable.

But if one entered the profession when it was already a rule that "you must 
serve all comers," or "you can't discriminate on the basis of X,Y and Z," then 
surely the denial of a religious exemption causes far less of a burden than in 
O Centro-like cases.  Not no burden, of course -- after all, if it's always 
been your dream to be a police officer, or to own a retail business in a state 
where such businesses have to serve all comers, then those laws do put some 
pressure on you to deviate from your religious beliefs.  But not nearly as much.

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