For what it is worth NPR says that she could be in jail -- or in and out of jail -- for most of the next three+ years, since she was only elected recently. This report seemed to imply that the Judge would keep sending her back to jail (or keep her in jail) until she agreed to issue licenses or I suppose resigned. For what it is worth, the Judge (appointed by Bush) is the son of the former Senator (and more importantly Baseball Hall of Fame pitcher Jim Bunning), ****************** Paul Finkelman, Ph.D. Senior Fellow Penn Program on Democracy, Citizenship, and Constitutionalism University of Pennsylvania and Scholars Advisory Panel National Constitution Center Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 518-439-7296 (w) 518-605-0296 (c) paul.finkel...@yahoo.com www.paulfinkelman.com From: Marty Lederman <lederman.ma...@gmail.com> To: "Cohen,David" <ds...@drexel.edu>; Law & Religion issues for Law Academics <religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu> Cc: ConLaw LIst Prof <conlawp...@lists.ucla.edu> Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 5:49 PM Subject: What's happening in KY? The reports I've seen (e.g., http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/04/us/kim-davis-same-sex-marriage.html) do not make clear exactly what's happening, other than that Davis is incarcerated. 1. Is the County Executive Judge now issuing certificates and licenses (which might ironically eliminate the grounds for Davis's contempt incarceration . . . until she refuses to allow the documents to be issued to the next couple that appears)? 2. What was the deal the judge offered her, regarding her deputies issuing the documents? Did she refuse it because her name would continue to appear on the two lines? Or did the judge say that she could omit her name and she still refused? Thanks in advance for any info, or, better yet, links to actual documents. On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Cohen,David <ds...@drexel.edu> wrote:
Hi all - a mootness question for you. In the case of the KY clerk who was jailed today for refusing to comply with a district court order that required her to issue a marriage license to a gay couple (and stay denied from the 6th Circuit or Supremes), according to some news reports, now that she is in jail and not able to serve, state law allows a county’s executive judge to now issue licenses. So, presumably that will happen relatively quickly, and the plaintiffs will get their licenses. Is the case now moot and the clerk can get out of jail because she’d no longer be in contempt of a court order, since the case is vacated as moot? And the issue isn’t capable of repetition at this point for the plaintiffs, as they now have a license and can’t get another (until divorced, which may never happen). It certainly is capable of repetition for other people, but not these plaintiffs (and they haven’t filed a class action, to the best of my knowledge). We’ve been around this issue before, and to the best of my recollection, most people believe the cases say that the “capable of repetition” part has to be for the particular plaintiffs, not for someone else. In other words, is she in jail for an hour, maybe a day, and then back at it shortly to deny someone else a license (when that eventually happens) only to repeat the whole thing again? David David S. CohenProfessor of Law Thomas R. Kline School of LawDrexel University3320 Market St.Philadelphia, PA 19104Tel: 215.571.4714drexel.edu | facebook |twitterAvailable NOW:Living in the Crosshairs: The Untold Stories of Anti-Abortion Terrorism (Oxford) _______________________________________________ To post, send message to conlawp...@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/conlawprof Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others. _______________________________________________ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.
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