On Saturday 21 September 2002 4:28 am, Tim Roberts wrote:
|  On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 20:49:09 +0400, Vadim Plessky wrote:
|  >So far, Microsoft is a way behind FreeType in terms of quality for
|  > rendered text.
|
|  This is an exaggeration.

Do you have results of in-depth research or at least some screenshots 
supporting your statement?

|
|  >Non-AA text in Win98/Win2000 is ugly, ClearType-rendered text is blurred
|  > and not easy to read.
|
|  I'm not sure what you're using for criteria.  FreeType 1.x sucked at the

* Microsoft e-book Reader with ClearType technology, running on Windows 98
* Compaq Presario 1800 notebook, with 15" TFT LCD.
* Mandrake Linux 8.2, XFree86 4.2.0-6mdk, AA enabled, Freetype 2.1.3-RC2
* Adobe Type Manager 4.1 / Windows
* 24-bit RGB display mode
* tested _many_ different fonts, including MS TrueType fonts, Adobe fonts, URW 
fotns, and my own fonts.
* tested different formats: PS Type1, PS Type3, OpenType (Adobe CFF/Type2 
format), TrueType

| small sizes typically used on desktops; FreeType 2.x is at least able to
| match the non-AA text in Windows, but it is not measurably better. 

Have you tried FreeType 2.1.3-RC2?

| Practically speaking, it CAN'T be; there just aren't enough pixels to
| tweak.

Do you have something to support your statement?
I would also appreciate if you can read
         http://www.freetype.org/freetype2/smooth-hinting.html
and test FreeType 2.1.3-RC2 or current FreeType CVS snapshot.
You can download it from here:
ftp://www.freetype.org/freetype/freetype2/freetype-2.1.3rc2.tar.bz2
ftp://www.freetype.org/freetype/freetype2/ft2demos-2.1.3rc2.tar.bz2

Be sure to replace Xfree86's FreeType with this one after compile/install.
There are mutiple places where typical Linux distro can put freetype library:
[vad@VPlessky vad]$ locate libfreetype.so.6
/usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6
/usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6.3.2
/usr/X11R6/lib/libfreetype.so.6
/usr/X11R6/lib/libfreetype.so.6.3.2
/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.6
/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.6.3.2

(NOTE: I created symlinks for  libfreetype.so.6 manually)

|
|  ClearType text is glorious on an LCD, for which it was designed.  It is
| not a net gain for a CRT, and I think that has damaged its reputation.
|

I can't find ClearType glorious.
It's a way better than default non-AA rendering (or AA-rendering using 5 
shades of gray) of TT fonts in Windows 95/98, an dit's better comparing to 
ATM 4.1.
But in general, I have impression that ClearType is unfinished (5 years afte 
rinitial introduction at SIGGRAPH) and not very well designed (*requirement* 
of LCD display is ridiculuos, in my opinion)

|  For AA text, I agree with you.  AA text in Windows is really a mixed bag. 
| I run it on my laptop, but it is not a clear win.  It seems to do a
| particularly bad job with thin verticals.
|
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|    Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.
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