Thanks... -----Original Message----- From: Russ Stafford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 Januari 2004 2:20 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Building first repeater
All very good points. One thing a lot of hams forget is that it MUST ID. It is a repeater. I have a TM-742 in my SUV and it gets used to extend the range of my HT.(cross band) It ID's I hooked up a Comm Spec cw ider. Would I use this as a full repeater? NO WAY! Get an old Master 2 or something and make a nice real repeater. Good luck! 73 Russ, W3CH Trustee W3PS Metro-Comm, INC Repeater network. Echo-Link node # 119660 (W3PS-R) 24 hours a day! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Lemmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Building first repeater > I strongly recommend that you proceed very cautiously along this path. > Amateur-grade radios seldom have the quality, stability, and robust > design needed in a repeater. The CTCSS tone encode deviation is > frequently far too high, and is almost never adjustable. Every > dual-band rig I have seen needed to be adjusted to bring the center > frequency and deviation within the manufacturer's own specs, and some > were very prone to drift. The ICOM IC-207H is a prime example of such a > radio. Very few dual-band ham rigs with cross-band repeat capability > have the proper filtering to keep the CTCSS tones out of the repeated > audio. I would go with two back-to-back commercial radios and a RICK > between them if I were interested in cross-band repeat capability. > > As I understand the FCC Rules, a cross-band radio (such as the Alinco > DR-605T) should be used as a remote base by the owner only. To be legal > as an open repeater, it must have a station identifier. > > Ideally, the radiation center of the antenna should be above any nearby > obstructions. An omnidirectional antenna with modest gain (4 to 7 dBd) > on the roof of the highest building will likely be a good performer. If > your antenna location is not centered in the desired coverage area, > consider a directional-pattern antenna such as a corner reflector, a > low-gain Yagi, or an offset dipole. > > I suggest you consider a Motorola R1225 repeater, instead. The R1225 is > available in 10 watt and 50 watt versions, is available in both VHF and > UHF versions, includes station ID-er, hang timer, courtesy beep, timeout > timer, TPL and DPL encode/decode, and is completely programmable. Even > with the required HVN9054 software, it costs less than a roughly > equivalent Hamtronics repeater, and is a far, far better radio. I have > two R1225 repeaters in commercial service, and one in Amateur service on > 2m. One of the former is a solar-powered UHF repeater that has been > operating 24/7 on a mountain ridge for more than a year, without a > problem. > > The R1225 is an economy low-tier repeater, but it has great value for > the money. I have no financial interest in Motorola, I am simply a > longtime user of their equipment and a very satisfied customer! > > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY > > Rizky_p wrote: > > > > Hi, i am thinking of building repeater for cheap. > > > > Can a mobile radio with cross band repeating capability and with 50W of Tx power be used instead of using dedicated repeater controller? I am thinking of Yaesu FT8800R. How high should the tower be? I want the coverage at least 20-30 miles. The area here is perfectly flat with most building as high as 24 feet. (densely populated area mostly houses) Any advice? > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/