Hi Paul,

Paul Holm wrote:

>Has anyone had luck using the Q-202G duplexers in the 145-148 range?
>

Yes, there are 4 repeaters close by my area that use them.

>  What needs to be done with them for use in the ham band?  Just different 
> cables?
>

Right, considering they may be fairly far from the destination 
frequency.  It's accepted that a move of 3% or less of where the factory 
built them is okay without cable replacement, more than that, its 
usually a necessity.

>What sort of isolation figure is possible?
>

At 600 kHz, you will see a typical notch depth of between 85 and 92 dB 
depending on how good the harness matches.  The *sides* of this duplexer 
seem to interact more so than others I have tuned, so, you need to make 
sure both sides are fairly close in tuning before spending time making 
them perfect.  Here is a document that will help you tune and understand 
them:
<http://www.repeater-builder.com/sinclair/cm-1008.pdf>

We have Micor repeaters on the 4 installations I spoke of earlier.  Most 
are running solid state 110 watt PA's running full power and the 
receivers include the Micor helical resonator preamp that gives 12 dB 
sinad sensitivity at -122 dBm (.2 uV) or slightly better.  These 
repeaters have no desense, but likely have very little reserve isolation 
as well.  One thing that can be done to add more reserve isolation is to 
use better than average equipment.  If you have a GE Mastr II two meter 
or highband repeater that has inadequate duplexer isolation, change out 
the exciter to a PLL type and take advantage of the 20+ dB less 
transmitter side-band noise.  Another thing is to consider using a tube 
type PA deck, like the GE 4EF5A1, with a typical 'multiplier' exciter.  
This could allow power levels in excess of 200 watts or more without 
suffering from inadequate transmitter side-band noise suppression.

Kevin Custer





 
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