Jeff,

I too, have had issues in the past with Cablewave products.  Specifiaclly
when buried, or run up a tower exposed to the elements.  I build AM
directional facilities.  No matter what lengths you go to to keep a buried
line "dry" (mine are usually buried in a piece of sched. 40 PVC pipe)  water
entered through the outer conductor. On a tower a rigger sometimes nicks a
jacket while working....  water then gets between the jacket and outer
conductor.  With Cablewave it always caused problems.

Seems the Cablewave method of edge welding the outer conductor was never
100% water-tight.  Any nick in the outer jacket usually resulted in water
getting into the foam.  It has gotten better of the years.  But my money is
on the Andrew product, no water yet...  and I always install my own
connectors.

Also our local ham assoc. bought some pre-fabbed jumpers from a guy in PA
(to remain nameless).  He used crimped connectors.  After moving the rack
around a few times the ends loosened and caused mucho problems.  I put the
old superflex jumpers we had made back in the circuit, and the problems went
away.

An old engineer once told me if you need it done correctly the first time,
you better do it yourself.  Then you only have yourself to blame if there
are problems.

Just my 2 cents...

mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff DePolo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:27 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Andrew Valueflex vs. Superflexible
Jumpers




Valuflex is the nickname for the slightly-lower-cost line of pre-made
Superflex jumpers from Andrew.  Valuflex jumpers use a machine-installed
connector (most are crimped on), not the usual screw-together connectors
that you would buy normally.  I've used them a few times, but don't
regularly buy them.  I prefer to make my own jumpers; I've had problems with
factory-made jumpers from both Andrew and Cablewave in the past.


          --- Jeff


On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:36:01 -0600, Doug Zastrow wrote
> Hi Mike,
>
> You are right, ValueFlex is NOT in Andrew Catalog 38 nor anywhere to
> be readily found.
>
> I was shopping the A/F CommSupply Catalog and found the ValueFlex
> jumpers on page 53.  (Caution if downloading the catalog; it is 7 MB.)
>
> I think your advice to stick with SuperFlex is the best course to follow.
>
> Thanks...
>
> Doug
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Mike Perryman
>   To: [email protected]
>   Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:38 AM
>   Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Andrew Valueflex vs. Superflexible
> Jumpers
>
>   Doug,
>
>   Youve got me stumped...  I can find no references to "Valueflex"
>  on the Andrew site, or in catalog 38.  I did see a reference to
> "sureflex" factory made jumpers...
>
>   I hate to hazard a guess...  other than to say I personally would
> stick with the standard FSJ4-50B (also known as superflex), or LDF4-
> 50A(low-loss cable).  For short jumper type runs, the standard FSJ4-
> 50B cable should be more than sufficient.
>
>   Sorry I can't be more helpful...
>
>   mike
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Doug Zastrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:18 AM
>     To: [email protected]
>     Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Andrew Valueflex vs. Superflexible Jumpers
>
>     Hello All,
>
>     I'm selecting replacement jumpers for a two-meter repeater
> system.  Specifically the repeater to duplexer and duplexer antenna
> port to antenna Heliax jumpers.
>
>     Andrew offers Valueflex and Superflexible jumpers.  Should I
> steer clear of the Valueflex?
>
>     Thanks....
>
>     Doug, WB0UPJ









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