OK thanks - I'm trusting then also that I can do the same on UHF, order 
high-side injection crystals for my KXN1024A UHF Receiver channel element and 
leave the discriminator diodes as they are.

Thanks again,
Larry



-----Original Message-----
>From: Eric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Jan 1, 2007 8:30 PM
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Question re: Crystal Ordering for UHF MICOR 
>Receiver
>
>Larry,
>
>I don't think the diode polarity matters, unless you are using channel
>elements with built-in AFC controls.  I've converted a few high-band VHF
>MICORs without touching the diodes, and they work just fine.
>
>73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 4:22 PM
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Question re: Crystal Ordering for UHF MICOR
>Receiver
>
>I've been following the recent thread about using high-side injection
>crystals in the GE Receivers. I've tried that on both VHF and UHF MASTR II,
>MVP, EXEC II, etc., and that always worked out well.
>
>I have several 2-Meter and UHF Motorola MICOR Repeaters locally, and they've
>been in operation for so many years that I never gave a thought about
>ordering high-side injection crystals for any of the receivers. They always
>seemed to work very well just sending them in to ICM and having them rebuilt
>for the new frequencies using the standard crystal formulas. Some of the
>Repeaters I inherited with the channel elements already re-crystalled, and
>none of the receivers' elements had been ordered with high-side injection.
>
>I'm just getting ready to send in another pair of UHF MICOR elements to ICM,
>and am wondering if I will gain anything by requesting that the Receiver
>element be recrystalled with a high-side injection crystal? Someone recently
>mentioned that I'd need to reverse the diodes in the discriminator if I do
>that, so that the AFC will work properly. 
>
>In a VHF MICOR Receiver, there are just two diodes that need to be reversed,
>when moving a high-split Receiver down to the 136-150 MHz range. Looking at
>the UHF MICOR Receiver schematic, I see that there are four diodes. Which
>ones get reversed, if you're changing the injection to high-side? The two
>"output" diodes, or all four? The Motorola service manual part numbers for
>the diodes (in both the VHF and UHF Receivers) are listed as P/N #
>48D84616A01 - "Diode, Planar hot carrier".
>
>I know these diodes are rather small and quite fragile. They're difficult to
>unsolder and then resolder after reversing polarity without breaking them,
>as careful as I've tried to be. I did that on several of the 2-Meter MICOR
>Receivers that I completely rebuilt with 136-150 MHz factory parts.
>Sometimes the diodes broke, sometimes not. Someone on the list recently
>mentioned this diode fragility problem, and recommended that the user plan
>for replacement as part of the Receiver frequency change project, rather
>than trying to reuse the original diodes.
>
>If there's any advantage at all to going with high-side injection on this
>latest UHF MICOR Receiver, I'll go ahead and order some new diodes from
>Motorola, just to be ready for any that I break. But how many, and which
>ones get reversed?
>
>LJ
>
>

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