John, Ancillary functions are functions not needed to perform required control functions to meet FCC rules. Being able to turn off the repeater are required to meet FCC rules. Making a patch, setting the time, etc are not.
One must have control of a repeater or any Ham transmitter and it must be done on the proper control link, most of 2 meters and 222 MHz and above, by wire (phone line, etc) and in person. Until December, 2006, a proper control link could not be on 2 meters, but Ancillary functions could be done one reason was for autopatches. This did not mean one could not turn on/off the repeater on 2 meters, just have to have proper link if needed. In December the FCC added some of 2 meters for a primary control. So the input of a 2 meter repeater can be used for the control link not requiring 222 Mhz and above. Use to be the input or output of a repeater, no matter what band, could not be used for control, but this went away years ago. 73, ron, n9ee/r >From: John Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2007/11/07 Wed PM 02:57:14 CST >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Part 97 question reference to Repeater control > > >According to Part 97.205e, ancillaryfunctions (phone patch, etc) are not >considered remote control⦠which seems tolimit the meaning of remote control >to enabling or disabling the repeater as aunit. > >From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 20072:41 PM >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]Part 97 question reference to Repeater control > >Isn't any operator on the repeater in RF control ofthe >repeater when they are using it? Also isn't the DTMF tone >control through the normal repeater pair remote control? > >Vern > >On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 13:54:32 -0600 (GMT-06:00) >George Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >>>From: MCH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Sent: Nov 7, 2007 1:28 PM >>>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >>>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Part 97 question >>>reference to Repeater control >>> >>>But where does it require a control link (AUX station) to >>>control the >>>repeater? (or landline ot local) >>> >>>Joe M. >>> >> >> >> 97.7 states that EVERY amateur station (remember, a >>repeater is an amateur station: see 97.3(a)(39)) must >>have a control operator: >> >> §97.7 Control operator required. >> >> When transmitting, each amateur station must have a >>control operator. The >> control operator must be a person: >> >> (a) For whom an amateur operator/primary station license >>grant appears on the >> ULS consolidated licensee database, or >> >> (b) Who is authorized for alien reciprocal operation by >>§97.107 of this part >> >> >> >> And Station control is defined in 97.109: >> >> §97.109 Station control. >> >> (a) Each amateur station must have at least one control >>point. >> (b) When a station is being locally controlled, the >>control operator must be at >> the control point. Any station may be locally >>controlled. >> (c) When a station is being remotely controlled, the >>control operator must be at >> the control point. Any station may be remotely >>controlled. >> (d) When a station is being automatically controlled, >>the control operator need >> not be at the control point. Only stations specifically >>designated elsewhere in >> this Part may be automatically controlled. Automatic >>control must cease upon >> notification by a District Director that the station is >>transmitting improperly >> or causing harmful interference to other stations. >>Automatic control must not be >> resumed without prior approval of the District Director. >> (e) No station may be automatically controlled while >>transmitting third party >> communications, except a station transmitting a RTTY or >>data emission. All >> messages that are retransmitted must originate at a >>station that is being >> locally or remotely controlled. >> >> And 97.205(d) states that a repeater may be >>automatically controlled. >> >> So, taking them all together, a repeater MUST have a >>control operator, MAY be under automatic control, and at >>all times when NOT operating under automatic control, >>MUST be either locally (someone physically at the control >>point) or remotely (RF or wireline) controlled. If >>remotely controlled over RF, the control link is in >>auxiliary operation, and may only be carried out in the >>frequency segments specifically authorized in 97.201, >>which, as someone else already pointed out, were recently >>expanded to include certain sub-bands on 2 meters. >> >> >> George, KA3HSW > Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome.