Eric,

Nice explanation. Good engineering practice. However, circuits can be loaded 
100% as long as it is not a continuous load (operated for more than 4 
hours). Vacuum cleaners (not likely to run 4 hours at a time) are more 
likely limited to 12 amps due to minimum circuit opacity for motor loads 
requiring an additional 25% of the load, so as to not overload a 15 amp 
circuit.

I apologize to all the non electricians reading this. Due to the amazingly 
confusing way the NEC is written, it's hard for electricians to pass up a 
good code argument. :)

Once again, very good engineering practice, Eric, in spite of the code 
details.

Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF
McPherson, Ks


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric Lemmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:47 PM
Subject: RE: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies


> Ron,
>
> That is a good question.  The answer is that one is not supposed to 
> connect
> any load greater than 12 amperes to an outlet rated at 15 amperes, that 
> is,
> a NEMA 5-15R receptacle.  The NEC allows two or more 15-ampere-rated 
> outlets
> to be installed on a 20-ampere branch circuit (wired with 12 AWG 
> conductors
> and a 20A fuse or circuit breaker), but the limit of 12 amperes on each
> outlet still applies.
>
> Proof of this restriction is evident in the "vacuum cleaner wars" of a
> decade or so ago.  Hoover came out with a vacuum cleaner with "7 amperes 
> of
> cleaning power."  Then Bissel came out with a unit claiming 9 amperes of
> cleaning power.  Other vacuum cleaner makers entered the fray until all of
> the brands had units with "12 amperes of cleaning power."  The reason that
> nobody offered a unit with 13 amperes of cleaning power is because they
> would then have to equip that unit with a NEMA 5-20P plug and at least a
> 14/3 power cord.  Most older homes do not have NEMA 5-20R outlets, so such 
> a
> vacuum cleaner could not be plugged in to the outlets in most homes.
> Besides, there is no credibility to a laughable rating of "cleaning power"
> expressed in amperes!  That is about as silly as claiming that a mobile
> radio has "13.8 volts of talk power!"
>
> Back to your second question.  By definition, a 15-ampere-rated branch
> circuit has circuit conductors of #14 AWG or larger, and is protected by a
> fuse or circuit breaker rated at 15 amperes.  The fuse or circuit breaker
> should hold indefinitely at 15 amperes, but the NEC recognizes that 
> allowing
> 100% of rated current is never a good idea, since wiring in attics may
> already be in a very hot environment.  Therefore, the NEC requires that no
> ordinary branch circuit be permitted to be loaded more than 80% of the
> circuit rating.  That's where the 12 and 16 ampere limits come from.
>
> Another issue is voltage drop, which is directly proportional to circuit
> loading.  Circuits that are loaded to 100% of rating will probably have
> excessive voltage drop, which leads to inefficient operation.  Good
> electrical design dictates that the wire size be increased for long runs, 
> to
> keep the voltage drop below 3%.  Moreover, an adequate electrical supply
> system should never experience more than 80% loading of any circuit.  Very
> heavy single loads should have a dedicated branch circuit of suitable
> capacity, with a single outlet.
>
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
>
>

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