Doug,

I have had some similar experiences here in the RB skunk works. I thought I 
was the only one to come across this phenomenon. I first noticed it with the 
batch of 5 or so that I got around the first of the year. I'm not sure if 
they changed to a different op-amp mfg or what.

My experience was the same as yours that I merely jumpered the input to the 
output - bypassing the TS-64 and the whole setup runs great. (no decode of 
course).

On the ones I ran into, I merely turned down the pot in the disc. and then 
adjusted the input pot on the controller to compensate.  I am scratching my 
memory, but I think I *was* able to re-produce this behavior on the test 
bench with a sine wave generator.

Please let us all know what you find out.

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Morris WA6ILQ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSTR II VHF and the TS-64MSTII(Repeater 
Unit)


> At 12:33 PM 09/02/08, you wrote:
>>Are there any guidelines as to what level from the receiver to the
>>TS-64 should
>>be used?? The out put of the receiver is set for one volt with a 3khz 
>>deviated
>>signal and for my part seems to be a bit high for the lp/hp filter op 
>>amps. In
>>my case, when observed with a scope, the signal out of the rx at pin
>>11 is nice
>>and clean as it is going into the lp filter section on the TS-64.
>>Coming out of
>>the TS-64 hp filter, it is distorted and noisy. With the levels left
>>the way they
>>were, the unit could be made to take off at a low frequency and high
>>amplitude.
>>Also, there appears to be a hf signal coming out at all times with an
>>amplitude of
>>about 105mvs. For some reason I can't seem to sync it in with the
>>scope.(grass!)
>>
>>If I reduce the level out of rx to the point where it does not take
>>off, and most
>>of the distortion disappears, I still have the steady "grass"
>>somewhat diminished
>>in amplitude. The grass is removed by the input circuit of the MRC100
>>controller
>>and the audio to the first op amp is clean. The distortion is as heard on 
>>the
>>MSTRII speaker. I won't know what it sounds like coming out of the 
>>controller
>>until I get it operational. (blown op amp)
>>
>>I did patch the TS-64 out and the repeater works just fine. The TS-64
>>also functions
>>the way it is supposed to when in the radio. The squelch works with
>>the reduced receiver
>>level and the grass does not seem to bother it.
>>
>>What is the recommended input level that should be set for the TS-64.
>>Has any one else
>>seen this behavior.
>>
>>Thanks and 73
>>
>>Doug VE5DA
>
> The TS-64 data sheet (at
> <http://www.repeater-builder.com/com-spec/com-spec-ts64inst.pdf>)
> says "15mv minimum" and that the input is "60K Ohms AC coupled".
>
> In your shoes I'd call Com Spec at 800-854-0547 between 8a and 4:30p
> Pacific Time
> and describe the situation.  Spence is good people and he'll help.
>
> Mike WA6ILQ
>
>
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