Mike,

Although I don't have an NHRC, I've encountered this problem once before with 
another system.  Look at all of your capacitors, especially from power to 
ground, or from audio to ground  We found that one of them was leaky, and when 
removed from the circuit, the hum went away.

Just a suggestion, good luck in finding the problem.

Don, KD9PT

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mike DeWaele 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 7:28 PM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Ge mastr 2 link question


  Paul, Eric

  Thanks for the response. I did some more testing with your suggestions. I 
tried hooking both radios up to a deep cycle battery. The hum is still there so 
I think that rules out the astrons! The audio from the main repeater to the 
link isn't as bad as from the link back to the main repeater. Both have a hum 
to them however the 2 meter to the 440 you can hear the voice. the other way 
all you get is the hum. 

  For testing I have it on the bench in the basement. the only common 
connection is only the audio and tx lines between the two radios. I have also 
tried it with a common ground as suggested by NHRC in the controller 
directions. Both have the same results.

  I want to make sure it works here before it goes back to the hill. At the 
site it's just my radio equipment and Wifi internet which has not given me any 
problems with both machines working there prior to bringing them to my house to 
work on this linking project.

  Maybe tomorrow I will give NHRC a call and see if they have run into this 
problem before.

  Thanks,

  Mike KA2NDW

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
Paul Plack
    Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 4:59 PM
    To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ge mastr 2 link question



    Ditto the possible issue with the Astrons, but you may also have too many 
common grounds.

    If you have the grounds of the machines interconnected through (1) the 
power supplies, (2) antenna and/or feedline bonds, (3) rack rails, (4) through 
the linking cable and (5) an additional, "just to be sure" ground strap between 
the radios, you could very easily have a ground loop.

    Since all the interconnections are made using unbalanced audio lines, you 
can't just lift the ground at one end as we might try in the pro audio world. 
Sometimes, a cheapo audio transformer, like the 600-ohm isolation transformers 
from Radio Shack, are enough to alleviate the loop, because they allow you to 
leave an audio ground floating from the chassis at one end of the link cable.

    A quick, cheap investigative tool here is one of the old 
three-into-two-prong AC plug adapters. If you use it to lift the ground pin on 
one of the Astrons and the problem goes away, it will be an important clue.

    Good luck!

    73,
    Paul, AE4KR

    ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Mike DeWaele 
      To: Repeater-Builder 
      Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 1:30 PM
      Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Ge mastr 2 link question



      Hi All,

      I'm having a problem linking two mastr 2 radios together. I have one site
      and want to full time have my 2 meter and 440 machines linked together.

      Equipment : (2) Astron R-35 power supplies (one for each machine)

      (1) Duplexed GE mastr 2 mobile for 2 meter machine.

      (1) duplexed Ge mastr 2 mobile for 440 machine

      (1) NHRC-4/M2 controller installed in the 2 meter radio

      (1) cord made up out of 2 mastr 2 cables

      Both units were tuned up and working properly as independent repeaters
      before attempting this project.

      Then we started the linking project!

      The radios are linked via the made up cord with the 2 meter machine being
      the main repeater and the 440 as a slave repeater on the secondary port. 
The
      set up works properly on both ports in both directions. The id sounds fine
      and the courtesy tones are fine. The problem is the repeat audio in both
      directions has a humming noise that almost sounds like it is being over
      driven. We have adjusted levels on both the controller and discrimators in
      both radios to no avail.

      We do have a common ground between both radios per the instructions with 
the
      controller. I'm thinking there is smething that needs to be padded in the
      audio lines. I'm researching the web but if any one has gone before me 
with
      the same project I was hoping to save some time.

      Thanks,

      Mike KA2NDW




   

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