There is a device called a Kill a watt, that is a plug in kWh meter,
should be avalible at big hardware stores.

http://www.killawattplus.com

On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Eric Lemmon <wb6...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Yeah, that is a big issue with those big and heavy ferroresonant power
> supplies from GE and Motorola.  At low loads, they are incredibly
> inefficient, with very low power factors- meaning the volt-amperes are much
> higher than the watts.  Proof of this statement is found in the Files
> section of this group, in my Power Supply Load Test folder.
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> You pay for electric energy in kilowatt-hours, kWh, not for volt-amperes.
> Regardless of what the ammeter reads, the Kill-A-Watt reading of 43 watts is
> what counts.  If we assume that the repeater sits idle for 24 hours and
> consumes 43 watts, that is 1.032 kWh per day- probably 15 cents worth.  I
> have one of those Kill-A-Watt meters, as well as some spinning-disk meters,
> and they agree very closely.
>
> Electricity suppliers don't like low power factors, because even though the
> power consumption may be low, the utility must build their infrastructure to
> supply those reactive amperes, meaning bigger generators, transformers, and
> power lines.  Large industrial customers are often penalized for low power
> factor, to help pay for the additional capital equipment that must be
> installed to supply reactive amperes.  That's why new commercial gear is
> using power-factor-corrected switchmode power supplies.  The definition of
> "high power factor" varies, but most utilities want PF to be above 0.9.
>
> It should be emphasized that one cannot determine power consumed (watts) by
> separately measuring volts and amps.  Separate measurements result in
> volt-amperes, which is also called "apparent power."  To measure true power,
> one must use a wattmeter.  A mechanical wattmeter is called an
> electrodynamometer, and is a meter that has two coils- instead of one coil
> and a permanent magnet.  One coil is connected in parallel with the load,
> and is energized by voltage.  The other coil is much heavier and is
> connected in series with the load, and is energized by current.  The torque
> on the meter movement is the instantaneous sum of voltage and current in
> phase, result in a deflection indicative of power.  An electronic wattmeter
> uses a circuit element known as a four-quadrant multiplier, meaning that the
> comparison of voltage and current is continuous through 360 degrees.  I have
> just such an instrument, a WD-767 digital wattmeter made by VIZ.  It can
> display true-RMS volts, true-RMS current, and true power in watts.  Very
> handy!
>
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Morris WA6ILQ
> Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 6:10 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Spinning disk wattmeter...
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> A ham I know is doing some research and needs to
> locate a spinning disk KWH meter, with socket, cheap
> or free...
>
> If he turns up something interesting it will end up as a
> repeater-builder article.
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> He wrote:
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>>My concern is that the cabinet I had here last year measured at idle
>>1.5 amps at 120V (180VA) yet also only measured 43 Watts with
>>the Kill-A-Watt meter. I am looking for another device to tell me what
>>the electric company is actually seeing and billing. Might one of your
>>connections have an extra single phase KWH meter in the junk box?
>
> I suspect he has a situation involving power factor.
>
> Mike WA6ILQ
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