At 3/9/2010 20:12, you wrote:

>OK, question...
>
>If you put a cable which is 1/4-wavelength at VHF between the T and the 
>UHF cavity, it's 3/4-wavelength at UHF. Since any odd multiple of a 
>quarter wavelength will invert the impedance, what will this really 
>accomplish on the UHF cavity side?

Doesn't matter at UHF, since the cavity "looks" like (hopefully something 
close to) 50 + j0 ohms @ UHF, so the cable length has no effect (other than 
plain ol' cable loss) @ UHF.  At VHF, the short at the UHF cavity connector 
(I'll take Gary's word that it looks like a short off-resonance, though to 
be sure you'd want to put the can on a VNA to get the actual phase angle at 
the connector) needs to be transformed to an open at the T so it has no 
effect & VHF.  The short-to-open transformation @ VHF is accomplished with 
a 1/4 wavelength of coax @ VHF.

>  The dual-band diplexers are usually high-pass/low-pass arrangements, and 
> lose something like 0.2 dB while providing 40 dB or more isolation. 
> Assuming you get a real one, and not something made with PIM-prne 
> materials, would this not be a safer bet?

It's true you wouldn't need to mess with cable lengths if a cross-band 
diplexer were used, but OTOH it would be another piece of hardware in the 
system that really isn't necessary, since the cavities are already 
there.  Plus if you're really worried about PIM, you'd probably have to 
move up to something like a cross-band coupler from TX-RX, which IIRC runs 
over $300.

Bob NO6B

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